Dorkside Nexus

So You're Still a Mace Windu Stan? A Tales of Jedi Breakdown.

November 02, 2022 Nexus Podcasting Season 2 Episode 19
Dorkside Nexus
So You're Still a Mace Windu Stan? A Tales of Jedi Breakdown.
Show Notes Transcript

What a week it has been to be a nerd!!!

This week we were spoiled rotten with News like James Gunn being hired as Co-CEO of DC films, and  Disney telling Lucasfilm exec Kathleen Kennedy to stop announcing new projects.  

We also got a trailer for Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantaummania and...Well... We still aren't sure how we feel about Marvel Trailers..

And finally, Tales of The Jedi Dropped and hot damn this is our jam!! We breakdown everything we LOVED about this amazing series of shorts!

So sit back, relax and join Brooksy, Corey and Tanner in this weeks episode of Dorkside Nexus

Tanner:

Welcome to Dorkside Nexus. In this week's episode Brooksie Cory and I sit down to talk about all the amazing nerdy content and news that's dropped over the last few years. At the top of the episode we're going to do a little brief catch up is what's been going on our lives. And then from there, we jump right into the most amazing news ever that has come out of the DC film universe. And that's James Gunn taking over as CO CEO of that whole organization. And thank God for that, ladies and gentlemen, from there, we hop on over to Marvel for a bit and talk about amp man in the Wasp quantum mania trailer, and where we think that's gonna go, as well as some more thoughts on the Black Panther Wakanda forever movie. And after that, we hop over to Lucasfilm where we talked about the recent Kathleen Kennedy news where she's been told to basically shut the fuck up about announcing new projects. Well over and Lucasfilm we're gonna talk andorre And then we're gonna get into what is by far one of the most beautiful pieces of animation and storytelling that we have ever seen. Tales of the Jedi. So sit back, relax and enjoy the show.

Unknown:

Left side so.

Tanner:

What was that about your left side?

Corey:

Hello and welcome to penis penis penis penis.

Tanner:

Why did I hit the recording button?

Corey:

I was hoping it would stop after I restart. Ah. Oh, I have to maintain my silky smooth podcast voice. Well, I can be entertaining for camera

Unknown:

while you're drinking tea with a side of big honey Bong Bong. No,

Corey:

no, I didn't say that for later. That's fine. That's my post recording.

Brooksie:

Once we have Qui Gon Jinn holding on to dear life over there and just

Corey:

hanging in there. Somebody helped me we'll be one hanging

Tanner:

back here we go again, guys. I genuinely don't know what to think anymore. When we start this

Brooksie:

that's how I feel anytime you guys make these, like snide inappropriate remarks. My brain just like Tyler exe has stopped working

Corey:

poro for Tyler Not Found

Brooksie:

oh that's my brain. Oh yeah. Oh my gosh really? Like really tired. Like, how do I do my job? I'm 404 not found

Tanner:

Oh my fucking god here too. I just I don't know anymore.

Corey:

We're kind of like the guardians of the galaxy at this point. What a bunch of a holes

Tanner:

were the as guardians of the galaxy together again.

Corey:

It's been long enough where I feel like I'm gonna do an Infinity War and game double feature soon.

Tanner:

I don't know. I don't know how if I have it in me. It's a lot. I just don't know if I have any like six hours.

Corey:

Like two and a half for Infinity War Three friend game. Yeah, that's an afternoon.

Brooksie:

I could probably do that. I could probably watch all I had a day off. I could probably watch all Lord of the Rings movies.

Corey:

That's another one. We just finished Fellowship of the Ring My girlfriend and I extended edition. So we're going into two towers. So excited.

Brooksie:

I just love the scene. Gandalf stands up to the Balrog goosebumps every time especially when the Balrog comes out of the the pit you see the flames behind him and it just screams at

Corey:

him as far as beyond any of you. Rom rom you guys get the hell out of here I'm going to soak up all the XP

Brooksie:

have pretty much leveled up

Tanner:

did he did no he evolved yeah he really did he evolved he went well actually

Brooksie:

well actually

Corey:

I understood that reference

Unknown:

that you said first love me the opportunity

Corey:

I'm so lost

Unknown:

I'll stop I'm sorry. Well until the campaign but

Tanner:

okay guys, we've rambled on long the fuck enough, I guess. Oh my god. We're a bit punchy this week. I think right?

Brooksie:

Yeah, I would say we're definitely a little bit oh it took a

Corey:

little bit of a break this week. So a little bit of a break back back at it again a little bit of a break. It was

Brooksie:

our normal again with the vans

Tanner:

is Vans Warped Tour coming back. Is that what you're telling me?

Brooksie:

Supposedly, yes.

Tanner:

God I would love I would love that. Corie stop looking at me like we're talking gibberish. You guys are getting a minivan, which I'm going to kill him

Brooksie:

which, by the way, both both the concerts I went to last week were absolutely phenomenal. Yeah, who'd

Unknown:

you go see?

Brooksie:

Well, the first one, I already know Tanner's pretty upset, which was Iron Maiden.

Tanner:

Yeah, no, I'm actually really fucking jealous of that one. Does Bruce Dickinson actually saying that? Well, yeah. Still? Yeah. Even at his age.

Brooksie:

Yeah, very well, he did a great job.

Tanner:

So what you're saying is he doesn't sound like Vince Neil. No, thank God. Thank God.

Brooksie:

Just seeing the fact that Edie went on the stage twice. And him having a chip out like not a jet pack up. A flame thrower was awesome. And then on. I believe it was Friday, we went to go see Sabaton

Tanner:

so I was going to try and get tickets to see blink 182 But they're like $1,500 So that was the thing that I was gonna try to do this week. I was like, fuck you ticket master with for$1,500 Yeah, blink 182 You can suck a big one.

Brooksie:

Yeah, that's that's a no bueno hard pass.

Tanner:

Cory is over here. Like,

Corey:

I don't do concerts. I do have my tickets for Rhode Island con though.

Tanner:

Yeah. Let's not get into that. Sorry. Yeah, that's an unfortunate situation that I can't go to understandable. Life happens life happens life happens I lost my cat ladies and gentlemen, my one year old cat is quite sad about it because I'm not a cat person. My girlfriend had cats when we moved in together. She had to she worked at the Humane Society and said hey, look at this cat he walks funny. Yeah, he did his little fucking kitten walked funny right. walked right into my heart stroke right right there

Brooksie:

right in the fields.

Tanner:

Yeah to put him down at a year old due to a urinary blockage and they wanted $4,000 For that surgery and he probably wasn't going to make it so been a rough week. In a rough weeks. That's a little somber. We're going to pour one out for my tap Bentley

Unknown:

or one out pour and one out.

Tanner:

Fun fact ladies and gentlemen the reason why we named him Bentley is because he couldn't walk correctly. And I instantly thought of Bentley the turtle from Sly Cooper when he gets crippled in the second game I love that cat but his whole existence was kind of a meme.

Corey:

He kind of walked like Jack Sparrow. But yeah

Tanner:

my demeanor doesn't seem like it but I am quite upset about his death like honestly all

Unknown:

I know that but like wow. You said Sly Cooper and I'm like, no I still love those games way back in the day.

Tanner:

And now you're not gonna go back.

Unknown:

You're not

Tanner:

ruined it for him guys. I ruined

Unknown:

Oh, man. The gang's all here. I never played that one either.

Tanner:

That is your loss. That is ladies. They were it was the next Xbox guy. Well, well, actually.

Brooksie:

Well, actually. You know. So speaking of the whole well, actually thing Cory made a joke. So now that's four rolls for psychic damage at the beginning of strahd Ladies and gentlemen.

Corey:

So let's start the adventure and I'm just gonna drop dead funds.

Brooksie:

Well, like I said, I could just have it tallied out and I could be like, Oh, they just got through a battle. Hey, you guys remember that joke? Hey, roll, psychic damage. Boy, we just ISO and raw psychic and

Unknown:

I got to health

Tanner:

to death saves instantly. Yes. There's

Corey:

a coinfalls on my head dies.

Tanner:

Pretty much I was Dungeons and Dragons campaigns. Especially. Are we gonna start at level one? Are we starting on level three?

Brooksie:

I think for like, because we're the exception to you and Ari, everybody else hasn't played. I think they'll probably start at level one that way

Tanner:

that makes us that makes the most sense to me to be completely honest. As much as I would love to start at level three. Yeah, but yeah, now things don't always go the way that they're supposed to ladies and gentlemen.

Brooksie:

No, but It'll give everyone who's a new player like, better perspective that way they

Tanner:

got the newbies. Hey, yeah, you heard me I'm one of them. Extra, extra extra punchy today guys extra punchy? Well, it's been quite a week. Honestly, for some nerdy stuff. I feel like we had several announcements. We had more and or and then we just got tales of the Jedi that just dropped. Yep. Heck yeah. So why don't we let's start with the some of the new announcements and rumors and stuff that have come out lately.

Brooksie:

So you told me about James Gunn, which was now a co owner, co CEO, co CEO, excuse me of DC, basically, was a DC.

Tanner:

Yeah, so DC studios officially Yeah, Warner Bros hired him on which I think was a brilliant move because he proved what he could do it with superheroes and not even like eighth here superheroes that he's gonna be dealing with, but like sealless heroes because Guardians of the Galaxy wasn't a household name or anything until he got his hands on it and created that first movie.

Corey:

I honestly think the Suicide Squad is the best movie DCS put out since the Dark Knight facts

Tanner:

like No,

Brooksie:

I definitely agree with that. And Peacemaker.

Corey:

Tana, you got to get on Peacemaker that show is so good. When you have time. That's the hardest thing to come by these days.

Tanner:

I mean, I just came off of a 24 hour shift ladies and gentlemen and roll that home made dinner real quick and set this up and also somehow watched most of tales of the Jedi so I don't know how I'm doing it. I don't know how anybody does this.

Corey:

It's running mostly on caffeine and and and what was that dish you made?

Tanner:

So I did a Cajun chicken and sausage Alfredo smells really good. And all in one pot, which is the beauty of this recipe and it's quick cut this chicken cook the sausage, throw your garlic and throw the rest of the ingredients and let it simmer for 25 minutes and you've got to bang and dish Cory over there. Can't eat any of it because his jeans are weak and as well as his taste buds.

Corey:

I brought a ham sandwich from the store.

Brooksie:

What else did you bring? Because there was a plastic container with something in it. Oh,

Corey:

that was the riverbeds loaded potato salad.

Brooksie:

Oh my god it's really good from there

Corey:

the bacon. I don't know chives or types of thing.

Tanner:

I think we just probably stopped talking dinner

Unknown:

talking it was the German smell. Oh excuse me. Such Germans.

Tanner:

Why do I feel like you're being Will Ferrell from the producers remake?

Unknown:

It's been a minute is he in that? Yeah, I remember Nathan Lane Matthew Broderick Will Ferrell plays a

Tanner:

German he plays the guy with the birds and the pigeons that guy

Unknown:

average of birds I don't remember him.

Tanner:

The guy who wrote who wrote the play the actual

Corey:

I'm gonna have to rewatch that one though. Yes, I know what you're talking about the movies classic.

Tanner:

Well, we're not here to talk about that movie. We're here. We're still on James Gunn.

Corey:

James Gunn definitely a good news for DC.

Tanner:

Right. I I think this was very needed for DC they needed somebody that understands storytelling and what audiences want. Not what audiences expect but what they want. Because those are two very different things in my eyes, and he's proven that he gets get he's can give us what we want when we don't expect

Corey:

when he's given the reins. Yes. He's the one who can. He can do whatever James Gunn can.

Tanner:

Well, I mean, look what he did with the Scooby Doo movies. Those as much as people rag on those movies. That was our generation. That was our childhood.

Corey:

I don't love the second one. But holy shit. The first one is perfect.

Brooksie:

The first one is perfect. Yeah, they were the first one was

Corey:

you guys see the thing going around? It was tell me two scenes that give off the exact same energy and it's the Tony Stark at the end of endgame. And I am Iron Man. And then it's the Scooby Doo to the poor Do you think you are

Tanner:

Kobe

Corey:

same scene. Oh, no, no, no, sorry. It's the guardians of the galaxy to not Tony Stark is the guardians to where everybody's like getting like,

Tanner:

no, no, no, it was it was the I've seen. So there's two versions floating around the internet. Because I've seen the Iron Man one. I haven't seen the Guardians one.

Corey:

There's one they're all getting like covered and rock and everything and groups getting smushed by everything and it's like who do you think you Who are the guardians of the galaxy? I know it's been a minute since I've seen that one. But I know James Gunn.

Tanner:

I don't like the second guardians that much.

Corey:

Same. There are funny moments. But everyone gets a joke in that movie to the point where it's like, something needs to be taken seriously here.

Tanner:

Not even that I personally don't think the stakes are that great. Over like, yeah, they're, they're big stakes. But it ego is my problem with that whole movie. I feel like

Corey:

he's got a little bit of goop on every single planet in the universe, and then they never talk about it again.

Tanner:

Kinda like the giant hand sticking out of the Indian Ocean.

Corey:

After eternals. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I haven't really had time to talk about that in any project. But it has to come up at some point. I can see that as like a Disney plus show. throwaway line, like, is anybody going to talk about this? I was surprised they didn't mention that. And she Hulk that's like, the perfect thing that could have talked about.

Tanner:

I mean, I think we've mentioned it before, in a world where shits getting blown up in the world could end at any moment from aliens or extra or extra dimensional beings or whatnot, you probably just don't fucking care anymore.

Corey:

It's just a Tuesday, just a Tuesday in the MCU. That's true.

Brooksie:

That's very true. Are you guys going to see black Adam at any point? I don't know. I know, Chanel would like to see it. But I'm gonna just go in there. Open minded. Not really expecting a lot.

Tanner:

Yet, I genuinely don't know. Because it sounds really mixed. Like there's mixed reviews. And then there's black Adam reviews. Like, I'm hearing a lot of great things. And then a lot of soso things.

Corey:

Critics seem to not really like it. But like DC fans are saying it goes hard. And I guess there's a cameo at the end that is going to make both of you guys pretty excited.

Brooksie:

I've heard. I've heard some of the rumors. I haven't

Tanner:

paid any attention to the rumors. So there's that. Yeah.

Corey:

I don't want to give it away. But there's an actor from The Witcher who has said that there's a lot more to come in the DC universe, which with James Gunn at the helm. I'm really excited for what that means.

Tanner:

Ha cuz I didn't I thought for sure he was going to be

Unknown:

spam. Mr. Doom. They still can be.

Tanner:

Uh huh. I don't know. I'm just I was kind of ready for him to be done with Superman. I guess there'd been so much turmoil around it that I guess I was kind of just done if that makes sense. He could

Brooksie:

probably likes show cameos here and there. But I feel like I think right now for him. He's going to be focused head on as playing Victor.

Tanner:

Yeah, I know that they're so they're doing. Season three of The Witcher comes out this year. Yep. And I think they're going to do four and five as one. And that's going to kind of be the wrap of it. Which makes sense for The Witcher. I don't really want this to be a series that they drag on too long. And then it just sucks. I would really really hate that as someone who's such a big fan of the of the property. Yeah. Because the games take over where the books end. And I mean, the games aren't canon. But they tell a really good story for after the end of the books. Yeah. So it makes sense to end that show but I I'm kind of somber I guess about him playing Superman. Like I don't feel excited, but I don't. I'm not upset by it. If that makes sense. Yeah, no, that makes sense.

Corey:

I loved Man of Steel, like a lot when that movie came out. And then the way they treated him and Batman vs. Superman. I was like, come on, you can do better. And then Injustice League. He was just kind of like the, you know, hey, he's alive. He's the beats everybody card.

Tanner:

Ricardo Magoffin. Pretty much. Yeah, it's, I think that's why I'm not. I'm kind of mad about it. Overall, it's just how the DCU has been handled. No, definitely make sense. That's really what it is. And it's nothing against any of the actors except Ezra Miller fuck Ezra Miller,

Corey:

who apparently has come back for reshoots on the flash movie. So they're doubling down on him still being a part of that

Brooksie:

yeah, that's that's definitely something that's,

Tanner:

that doesn't that just doesn't sit well with me. I don't think I will give that movie my money.

Brooksie:

Yeah, I'm with you there. I'll probably watch like a beauty Vidyo or something most?

Corey:

Yeah, I'm in it for the Michael Keaton and the Ben Affleck of it all but beyond that, I'm not really I got the show flash and that's good enough for me.

Tanner:

I want that movie to fucking flop because of that, Mr. Miller, not anyone else. I think everyone else in that is a stellar actor and they deserve their light their their moment in their roles and whatnot. Buck, Ezra Miller, and fuckin even more because he does shady shit in our home state of Vermont, motherfucker. Yeah.

Brooksie:

Yeah. No, that's very true.

Corey:

I think it's one of those just kind of having to separate the art from the artist. Kind of things. You know, ya know, they hired him before he went and did all this crazy shit. So, you know,

Brooksie:

that's definitely a good point, separating the art from the artist.

Tanner:

I mean, I guess this is why it was probably a good thing. Social media didn't exist in the 70s and 80s. Because our favorite celebrities were fucking children. Were doing the nasty with children. Okay, I

Corey:

was gonna say that. I mean,

Tanner:

the the way that the way that was phrased I could see why but ya know, like Ted Nugent, most of the British Invasion bands. It's disgusting to listen to look back. Oh, anybody from the 80s Oh my god, you know that there were underage girls all over the place on the Sunset Strip, but the hairband Oh, do

Corey:

you guys think the internet has run its course. I like should we just like bury it and go back to like, writing on paper and sending letters and shit.

Tanner:

No. And we will talk about this more off air because that leads into another point of a guest that I want to bring on the show. Okay, I think I know where you're going with that. Yes, because I do not believe the Internet has run its course I believe we're just seeing the next evolution of it. And we will get to that point on possibly the next episode we record together ladies and gentlemen. Oh, oh. Oh, scandalous. A

Corey:

lot of intrigue. Going back to DC though. I guess they have made a good turnaround. I guess they're going back and they're getting rid of every Ember heard seen and Aquaman too.

Brooksie:

Yeah, they are trying to face her out, so to speak.

Tanner:

Okay, so Okay, okay. I'm gonna call a fucking spade a spade right now. This is ridiculous. DC, you pick one abuser to keep and then you get rid of the other abuser. You can't have it both ways.

Corey:

I think it's because Ezra Miller is playing the main character of the Flash movie, and it's really hard. Then again, they just kind of like, got rid of the whole back girl movie and that's an entire movie and that character actor did nothing wrong.

Tanner:

They shot 90% of Back to the Future with one actor and then they said it's not working and brought Michael J Fox in and reshot it.

Unknown:

That's back in the day though.

Tanner:

It's backing me Are you fucking kidding me justice.

Corey:

That's I understood that reference. But ever heard, I imagine it's gotta be easier to just kind of screen her out of the movie,

Tanner:

I guess. Still not a good book. That's that is my biggest problem is it's not a good book at all.

Corey:

Warner Brothers is still trying to figure their shit out. And I think that's going to be the case for a while. Well, with

Tanner:

the with James Gunn taking over Do you have a feeling that it might catch up to the MCU? Because and hear me Hold on, hold on, hold on, hear me out on this. Until the MCU gives me that gusto. You know that what it had for the first three phases? I'm kind of iffy on it right now. as a whole.

Corey:

I'll go. I feel that because it seems like as excited as I am. For everything coming out post endgame. Every trailer has kind of left me with a feeling of like, cool, but it's not endgame. Like when phase three which was at its peak. Every single time a movie was announced or a trailer came out. I was like, Whoa, oh my god, this is amazing. I haven't really had that sense multiverse of madness had a lot of potential, but fell flat on its face. It was what multiverse of madness was and it's some people's favorite Marvel movie. If that's the case. I'm really excited for you. I wish I felt that way.

Tanner:

I would have felt that way if Sam Raimi had been given free rein.

Corey:

I think my favorite parts of that movie are the parts that feel like a Sam Raimi film. Yes, it's real spooky out there. Like, oh, this doesn't feel like a Marvel film. And that works for me.

Tanner:

This also is a great segue into something else that just came out was the The Ant Man In The Wasp quantum mania trailer. Yes. Brexit you're the one that sent it over to me. Yes. I hadn't seen it yet until that and yesterday actually, I didn't get a chance to watch it.

Unknown:

Catherine Newton is gorgeous

Tanner:

by the way.

Corey:

Who's that? That is that I

Brooksie:

believe she's portraying Scott Scott's daughter. Yeah. Thank

Corey:

you. Yeah. The recast of the recast of Cassie

Tanner:

she I first came across her in supernatural of all things she plays recurring character in some of the later seasons.

Corey:

She looks super familiar but not from that night. She

Brooksie:

shows up early on before season five. Well

Tanner:

she's cast his daughter.

Brooksie:

Oh, I must be thinking about the a different one. You're a different character.

Tanner:

You're thinking of a different character. She plays the

Brooksie:

cat steals. Well, Jimmy Novak's daughter?

Tanner:

Yes. Yep. So and she's been around for a minute but hasn't gotten like that big big

Corey:

the brain rolls and got like a Marvel movie something that yeah,

Tanner:

what was the movie that came out a few years ago where it was all they were all teenage girls were saying they were going to lose their virginity on prom night that had John Cena in it. Talk blockers Yeah, she was in that that movie was hilarious that it was hilarious. That gave us the John Cena but jug scenes

Brooksie:

did not watch it but I did hear about but

Tanner:

it's worth watching once. It's not a movie that has much rewatch ability because of it's just ridiculous. It's like American Pie but so much worse. God it's Oh no,

Unknown:

I have never seen John Cena

Corey:

Just kidding. No, I've never seen that one. But

Tanner:

I heard it was really funny. No one has seen him though.

Corey:

I honestly never cared about Cena until he showed up as Peacemaker me in the Suicide Squad me No

Unknown:

no that's a pencil no not this like exam I'm taking god dammit Cory What have we done? Let's see. All they have is pawns man. Oh fuck Damn it. We're gonna

Tanner:

get out of character creation. He's gonna read the fucking first line of the strahd campaign and go and go role for psychic damage.

Brooksie:

Oh, like I said it will be at times when you hit one of you or all of you have very low health. I also have created a new earth elemental.

Tanner:

Bucky you kindly go fuck yourself.

Unknown:

I don't know what that means. Don't worry

Tanner:

about it. We're fucked. Don't

Unknown:

Don't worry about it. It's it's gonna be all okay. I don't believe you. I'm in danger. Yeah, yes.

Tanner:

Very much so no, but I do have to say this about John Cena. i Well, excuse me cut that out. But John Cena is acting is pretty much how I expect

Corey:

it is good. Yeah, he's very good. He's pretty good.

Tanner:

I mean, when you spend all that time in WWE, you have to be good at acting. So there's that That's right.

Corey:

Like you're playing a character the entire time. It's yourself in a way but it's the characterized version of yourself.

Tanner:

So I actually somehow at work at the end up watching them fast nine, fuck the Fast and Furious movies after the fourth one personally. Now, I'll give it to the fifth one. But I forgot he was in it. And while I think the writing is sloppy in that movie, I think he did a great job with what he was handed.

Unknown:

I don't think I've seen that one.

Brooksie:

I'm working through them right now with Chanel. Just they were all on

Tanner:

top, which was stop after Tokyo Drift. Tokyo. Fuck anybody who hates on Tokyo Drift by the way. Drift is good. It's a good movie. That is my favorite one because it's the only one that keeps cars at the true heart of it after after the first two.

Corey:

That's the one was the fifth brother. Right? Hon. Yeah, yeah,

Tanner:

he's in. He's in all of them. Yeah.

Corey:

I've seen most of the ones after the third one. I can't tell you which one is which I know the rock shows up at some point.

Brooksie:

I think that's an Fast Five.

Corey:

I have seen Hobbs and Shaw because I love me some Jason Statham.

Brooksie:

I mean, Jason Statham is pretty awesome.

Tanner:

Yeah. So I you know, with keeping the the DC train rolling with PMS, Peacemaker I they think that they're okay. Why? Why are we on DC? So you're talking about quantum mania. And here let's take with quantum mania. Yeah. I enjoyed the trailer but like you said, Cory, it doesn't wow me.

Brooksie:

i I'm in agreement with both of you. Because when after I sent it to you, Cory, was, you had said to me that hey, like, I appreciate you sending me the trailer or it sounded like this. I can't remember the exact message but it was thanks for sending me the trailer but they don't have the same luster as they did in phase three. And they don't they don't after watching it. I was like, alright, well, I'm definitely gonna watch this. But again, like Cory said, I'm not like, amazed by it.

Tanner:

No, I mean, I I'm excited to see King I'm excited to see King and it's full kindness.

Brooksie:

It looks like a full kindness. Don't fucking

Tanner:

judge me. Okay.

Corey:

It looks like a fun movie. I mean, I have been so far

Tanner:

it looks like a lot of fun. But that being said, I'm not wowed. Like you said it the multiverse of madness trailer was more wowing. But that movie is met Atmos. The more I

Corey:

learned about the multiverse of madness, and like what happened in the writing and they kind of threw out the original script that they had and then rewrote it. So the one that was like, straight up the villain. I don't know. I feel like it could have been great. It's fine. Like all of phase four has been like they're good movies, but they don't feel like they have the same punch. Actually,

Tanner:

hold on. We have Shang chi Chun Chi has the only only one that has had the punch

Corey:

a Shang chi is like in a class of its own. That felt like a phase three movie.

Brooksie:

Yeah, did without a doubt. There's no argument there.

Tanner:

And so with quantum mania, I just I just don't feel anything. Is that that I feel nothing. I don't get excited. I don't feel dismayed. Oh, it doesn't look good. It just I don't feel anything towards the trailer.

Corey:

That's kind of been all Hitman films. MN one was really nice. It's a fun little departure from what we had in phase was that that was after Age of Ultron. So phase two, everything we'd had up until then it felt like a cool nice little palate cleanser after a big Avenger thing. And then Ant Man and the Wasp happens after Infinity War. There was nothing that they could have done with that movie that would be like, Wow, after Infinity War, that was amazing. And then this one kind of feels like okay, this is going to be the king setup. Maybe we'll get a couple of like, quantum realms. This will come into play like for movies from now or in the Avengers something. But it just it doesn't have that Wakanda forever. Looks amazing. I'm ready for that.

Tanner:

How weird would this be though? It wouldn't be completely out of left field where Wakanda forever it looks amazing, but it's the worst of the two movies and then then quantum media and I'm not saying that to shit on anything about those movies, because I want it to be amazing. I really do. But there's just something that I'm not sure about.

Corey:

going back and watching some like Black Panther stuffs and retrospectives Chadwick Boseman made that movie for me this true

Brooksie:

is true he he played the role perfectly fit like grit very well done. He he brought to trolla to life like into the real world and it's it's definitely they're going to have to really step it up I feel like with Macondo forever to fill that to fill that big hole that he that he left now that I'm saying all the other actors and actresses are you know are good I'm just saying that that's that's a big hole to fill. So

Tanner:

he gave that roll his everything because he knew it was going to be the last thing he'll the lasting impact he left on the film industry. And that's not to say anything because I think him he played a great Jackie Robinson in 42. But that he knew the end was near and he gave that everything.

Corey:

He got to be kind of like a symbol for people who had never seen like a black superhero before brought onto the screen like with that much presence. Yeah, he got it.

Tanner:

He when He was on camera, he commanded the entire your entire attention. That's very hard to do. I think of only Honestly, as much as I think Chris Evans was a great Steve Rogers and great Captain America, I don't think he commanded my present, like, commanded me to look at him on screen. Yeah, if that makes sense. I've very much am linking Chadwick Boseman, to the same level as Robert Downey Jr. Because they when they're on screen, all eyes are on them and they knew it. Yep,

Corey:

I agree. Yeah,

Brooksie:

I definitely agree. Yeah, they have that. They have that very Alpha mentality.

Corey:

I'm really hoping that they use his absence as a big plot point in the movie. And that looks like where they're going. Yeah,

Brooksie:

I think that's yeah, it definitely seems like that they're setting that up for sure.

Tanner:

But I don't know where we're going with quantum mania. That's my concern. Like I it's gonna have to set up a lot it is because Kang, supposedly the next big, big bat, and it has to set up a lot. And think about it for Marvel to just throw King out there twice, in more than just a end credit scene role is amazing. It honestly, terrifies me more because with Thanos, we had glimpses and that was it until he came on screen and Infinity War.

Corey:

It seems like he's very much gonna be like the Thanos was the behind the scenes bad guy

Tanner:

guardians? Yeah, you know what I meant. But even then, it was still just short snippets. So

Corey:

he's in charge, you know, Loki ends up being the bad guy of the first Avengers that brings them together. And then, you know, Thanos comes on and kills Loki in the first like three seconds of infinity war, his first appearance. You get that feel of like, oh, this is the big bad. Now they're starting off this multiverse saga. I mean, we're already what? How many films hasn't been I don't even want to think about it. At least like six or seven that we've had so far. Yeah. And now we're just starting to get to this guy. And I'm like, is he gonna be scary? How does this work? And are we going to

Tanner:

when he as he was, who remains was a very different role than what's being portrayed on in this already? You can just tell. Yeah, and I absolutely love that and what's the actor's name?

Corey:

Alright, Jonathan majors, I

Tanner:

believe yes. And kudos to him for in the trailer and his little bit of time and low key portraying the quote unquote same character in very different ways. Yeah, very much how we praise Oscar Isaacs for playing the roles that he played in

Corey:

he just got awards for moonlight. I can't remember what the awards were but he just got like Best Actor in a TV series award for moon night which

Tanner:

as he should Yeah, absolutely. Should the the work he had to put into portray those portray Steven and mark it was and moon night and end, Jake. All in one. Yeah, I was so good.

Corey:

I cannot plug this Youtube series enough. It's called. Oh, no, I'm forgetting. Cinema therapy. Cinema. Yeah, cinema therapy. You've told me to watch this several times. And I just haven't gotten around to it. They just dropped an episode. It's two series of episodes. One of them is how to improperly display di D in film and they talk about the movie split. And then they do how to properly talk about di D. And they go through like the layers of how perfect almost said Poe Dameron Oscar Isaacs plays everything about that character. Yeah,

Tanner:

yeah.

Corey:

Can't recommend it enough.

Tanner:

No, you can't. There's so much there.

Corey:

And then we got another Marvel reveal. Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas special. I

Tanner:

didn't watch the trailer to this. You sent it to me and I haven't had time. So it looks

Corey:

I was like, Okay, is it gonna be like, Star Wars? Yeah. Star Wars Holiday Special kind of thing. It actually looks really good. Yeah,

Brooksie:

I've watched I watched it. It does look really good. And like, I like James

Corey:

Gunn again. Right. They filmed at the same time as filming guardians three. So it is going to be canon it's going to tie in and it's going to have hopefully, implications moving forward.

Tanner:

Make sense? Make sense? The. I think we need to that's kind of it for Marvel stuff lately. Right? Yeah. Just about.

Corey:

They did some Secret Invasion stuff. We're getting some hints about that. But for the most part, it seems like movies are what they're pushing right now. Now that she hooks done.

Tanner:

Yep. Which makes sense. Now that everything's opened back up. They can really focus on the big blockbuster stuff again.

Brooksie:

Yeah, for sure.

Tanner:

Let's move over to Lucasfilm real quick because there was a it was come out that Kathleen Kennedy has been told by Disney to stop announcing projects.

Corey:

Yeah, yes, she was told that sorry. I didn't mean to kick Yes, okay.

Tanner:

Why does this make me so happy?

Corey:

Cuz they should probably stop announcing things that they're not going to talk about or may not even end up becoming things.

Unknown:

So,

Tanner:

I know we talked about it. I Brooksie I think you and I definitely did we know we might have talked about it here on the show, too. But the Rogue Squadron as much as it wasn't in that getting cancelled, or postponed indefinitely, quote, unquote. I was bothered by that. It was a movie I didn't know I needed but when, when it was announced that it was canceled. Can you stop yawning For fuck sake?

Unknown:

Are we boring you? Yeah,

Tanner:

he's been quiet this whole time and I'm getting mad about it. The frustration is visible on my face.

Corey:

It's just really upset about Rogue Squadron.

Brooksie:

Yeah, do something wrong?

Tanner:

I don't know. Yeah, you haven't talked at all? Say something giving up on you. Okay, by we've got the video rolling back. So you makes me feel bad?

Brooksie:

Well, okay. Anyway, the road, her being removed from, or I should say being told by Disney that to not, you know, you can't announce projects anymore. I think it's a good call. Because in the in the end, what they were doing is they were like, Oh, this is coming out, this is coming out. And then a few months later, now, we can't do that this is canceled. This is cancelled. It's just like, let's I feel like they're like, let's get it at this percentage completed, then we can release it. And then you can announce it.

Tanner:

Or I think the other possibility to this too is was it Patty Jenkins? Who is supposed to direct Rogue Squadron? Yes. So the other possibility is how about you shut the fuck up until we at least get a director lined up, is don't announce that this movie is going to be done by so and so and then they can't do it is really what I feel like is happening honestly. It's just annoying, because I was looking forward to it in a way I didn't realize I was

Corey:

I feel like she was trying to take a page out of the Marvel thing and be like, Look at all these things we have coming. And you know, been saying it for a while. I think Star Wars is gonna live on TV for the foreseeable future.

Tanner:

And that's fine. And that's absolutely fine. But I think the big issue here is she doesn't know how to make a plan.

Brooksie:

Now that she's Yeah, I think what she's done until recently is she gets these projects, like 10 20% complete, and then she just announces them. And she gets overexcited, which then gets us over excited. And then she doesn't have a backup and they may have to drop them

Tanner:

as much as I've talked about the sequel trilogy and how I dislike it at length I think this is the the effect of of all the backlash from it. And he just she was probably this whole time kind of in hot water you need to make something happen. You need to make it so that the fans enjoy the property again, you need to give them something and so she was basically just throwing spaghetti at the wall trying to get something to stick.

Brooksie:

Yeah. Which and thus, a lot of it hasn't really worked from what she's done, per se.

Corey:

When you gotta let your spaghetti boil before it's gonna stick. You know, I'm talking about you gotta let the movies actually been made. Get in the process drop a trailer as opposed to just and guess what Tyco ytt has got a movie Well turns out and Ryan Johnson is getting three movies. Well, as a matter of fact, no.

Unknown:

Yeah, the acolyte

Brooksie:

we have we know nothing about the yeah, there's been no information on that. And

Tanner:

also Kevin Feige was supposed to get a Star Wars movie. He was supposed to get one that he was supposed to direct and that nothing on that.

Corey:

Rumor has it it's still going they just start keeping about it. Which with everything he's got going on in Marvel right now. How would he have time to direct a Star Wars? That's

Brooksie:

definitely understandable.

Tanner:

Oh, it's 100% understandable. I like that one. I remember seeing people excited that Oh, Kevin Feige supposed to direct the Star Wars movie in like 2026 or something?

Unknown:

What? Yeah. Oh, what?

Tanner:

How? Like, why are we announcing stuff this far out? And with no plan, but with no plan to get there? Yeah.

Brooksie:

It's really As far ahead, so who knows what kind of Marvel projects they'll have set up at that point?

Tanner:

I will say that I am excited for Star Wars on TV. I really am. Everything that's come out recently has been, in my opinion. Great. Yeah.

Brooksie:

Yeah, it's it's everything that's come out has been really good. Slow to build, but it's been good.

Corey:

Endor has been surprisingly good for me. I mean, I was really excited for it. But every episode has like this level of intrigue and just like it feels like it's not reliant on oh, here comes the laser sword wielding, you know, magic user, it's people.

Tanner:

What is the actor's name who plays Kassian and or?

Unknown:

Idea.

Corey:

I'm going to remember in 30 seconds going What about me

Tanner:

who I've been seeing people talk about how they think he's the weakest part of the entire show? And I'm like, Yeah, Cory your face. Exactly. Exactly. That face. Yeah,

Corey:

I got I have to Google it. It's literally on the tip of my tongue. He's an amazing actor. I love Deanna Diego. Luna. Sorry.

Tanner:

Yeah, he's I think he's playing a fantastic Cassie and, and or, Oh, my God, if I don't I stutter. kacian andorre. There we go. I think he's fantastic. Because we're seeing his journey from just some punk on the streets, basically, to being a rebel. Yeah. And this is without me seeing the latest episode because work yesterday made it so I couldn't see it. But I love it. Even in Episode Seven. It was really good seeing him get arrested at the end of that and knowing that's how he gets this illusion where with everything going on, and maybe the rebels are right. That's

Corey:

I think it's so funny. Yeah, we can totally talk about Episode Seven. Right? All three?

Tanner:

Yeah, I just haven't seen eight. I haven't seen eight because I was at work.

Corey:

It's interesting that they say when he's getting sentenced at the end of that episode that oh, this used to be just like a six months thing a six month, you know, oops. Yeah. Now it's a six year thing directly because of the operation at Al Donny that he took place in so in a way. Yeah, he got the credits and everything. And he's trying to like live free. But now he's arrested.

Unknown:

For something he didn't even do.

Tanner:

What is the dude's name? The art dealer? What is his name? luthan. Thank you. Thank you, Stellan Skarsgard. Yes. I love what luthan said to Mon Mothma. In that episode, this is exactly what you wanted. This is what was needed there in my mouth was like, they're gonna get ramp everything up. He knows that. That's what we need them. Yeah, he

Brooksie:

says that we want to we wanted them to apply pressure. Because if we apply pressure people are under that pressure are going to start to rise up.

Tanner:

It was I think, like the analogy he used was they've slowly been choking us subtly for years. And now this is going to prove that

Corey:

right? Yeah. Like nobody's really noticing and wanting to do anything about it. Because it's happening at such a slow, steady rate. He's like, we need the people to notice like, Hey, this is the kind of like, practically martial law that the Empire is gonna put down on the galaxy. Yeah.

Tanner:

And it honestly highlights how big the galaxy is and how different areas feel the full wrath of the Empire. Because in Obi Wan, we're what Obi Wan was five years before this.

Brooksie:

Yes, because it had been, it has been 10 years before. Zero, baby. Why

Corey:

can you lay it was about 10. So it'd be about 10 years after Revenge of

Tanner:

the Sith. Yeah, but I'm saying Andorra is about five years after five years after Yeah, yeah, that's my point. So it shows you that there's pockets of the galaxy that have been getting the full force of the Empire at certain times, but not getting on a large enough scale for everyone to feel how negative the Empire really is.

Brooksie:

Yeah, but I feel like with the parts that have been hit harder, they've been influenced by Vader, or probably Grand Moff Tarkin.

Tanner:

The parts that have been hit harder, are the ones that have most openly, like you said, been involved with Vader or some form of a rebellion.

Brooksie:

Yes, and I got I say that because those are probably systems that were probably members of the CIS. Yes. So they were probably you know, Palpatine is like, hey, there's a problem. You need to deal with it. Or hey, there's a potential rumor of a Jedi being in this system. You need to go take care of it.

Tanner:

Well, it also highlights the difference between IASB the Inquisitors like how organized the Empire is, but also how not fractured but cellular but because again, you got you have Inquisitors over here and you've got ISP over here. Then you've got the Imperial arm. Coming up here. So you've got all these different aspects that

Corey:

and they're not wanting to work together, they're staying so compartmentalized untell Kassian and the group at Adani kind of forced them to come together and that's where you see, you know, more stormtroopers throughout the galaxy. And they're starting to like lay us as tighten their grasp. More star systems start to slip. Yeah. Yeah, like the people on Farex that planet. You see, they kind of just like went along with it. So the Empire basically just left them alone. Like, yeah, you guys are kind of like in a shitty situation, but you're not actively rebelling. So we're just gonna end them

Tanner:

on Petunia herself basically says, No, we're getting ready to rebel. We're joining the rebellion.

Corey:

And Cassens like, I'm not doing that. I'm gonna I'm gonna go party in space Miami and then get arrested by Sam. Wait, where is the voice of the short Trooper that arrests him at the end?

Tanner:

Oh my God, I

Corey:

didn't realize that. Yep. Our own Darth Maul Star Killer. How many the son of Mortis

Brooksie:

files or voices? Palpatine. And Force Unleashed?

Unknown:

Yes. Wow.

Brooksie:

Goodness gracious.

Corey:

Oh, do we want to talk about tales of the Jedi? Well, we're on Star Wars right now.

Tanner:

That's what I was saying. We're gonna get to episode eight in our next episode. And that'll be eight, nine and 10 When we talk about that, right? If we do, yeah, it should be eight, nine and 10.

Corey:

Are we recording? Today? Not next week? Oh, yeah. Two weeks, so we'll be almost near the finale.

Tanner:

Yeah, which will be a great place to end I think because we'll record our finale episode The day after the finale releases.

Corey:

And then by then Black Panther should be out too. So we

Tanner:

were in a good place. content wise with nerdy stuff, guys. I like it as a fan. This is this is a good place to be. Yeah, so tales of the fucking Jedi guys. We watched the first five, four

Brooksie:

or four episodes because you guys didn't watch the last two.

Corey:

I haven't seen the very last one. Yes, the very last one

Brooksie:

has a lot of tidbits about what happens in the book. And then the fifth episode is a lot of I don't want to say it because I don't want to spoil it for you. I

Corey:

appreciate that. Yeah, my girlfriend is just going through the Clone Wars now. So I don't want to spoil who lives and who doesn't yet. So fair enough. I appreciate you letting me know that episode five was gonna have a little bit of yeah,

Brooksie:

there's there's a lot of there's a lot of like, changes based upon like look, and it's it's good. And it sets up a lot of what happens throughout Clone Wars in my opinion. Oh, yes. It's a simple episode. And that's as much as I'm gonna say on that.

Tanner:

Now, but the first episode started great, although I thought I was watching Ice Age guy they expected I swear to God,

Brooksie:

so cute. She's adorable. She's She's adorable. But the fact that I believe it was you or it was already there was a loser's ICIJ movie. I'm like, he's right.

Tanner:

Oh my god, fucking like saber toothed Tiger. I was like, Oh my god.

Brooksie:

Said he saw right. I watched it yesterday. I was like, why don't I get the feeling this is familiar. And he says it this evening. I'm like, Oh my gosh, there it is. That's what it was. And

Tanner:

then the lion runs off with baby Ahsoka, just like an ice age.

Corey:

Just kind of carry in her and she's just like, oh, this is weird. It's okay.

Unknown:

I don't know what's going on. But I'm having fun.

Corey:

Do little babies so because I would literally punk grow goo off of a fucking clip. If I had to choose between that baby a little bit

Unknown:

what's worse is the fact that the species as a football

Corey:

size

Unknown:

Well, Stewie Arnold, baby. That's what I'm saying. Oh, you think it was Helga from a football ad for the Arnold.

Corey:

Spike grow goo into a cement ground just as save babies. Oh, my God.

Unknown:

That's a fucking dark. Bad.

Corey:

I don't care if

Tanner:

you're gonna commit infant infant side infanticide?

Unknown:

Because like 50 is only a baby belly.

Brooksie:

Yeah, you know, you got in there, but still that's as dark.

Tanner:

But was she eating blue macaroons, huh? Yeah. Was was baby Ahsoka eating blue mackerel, I

Brooksie:

know what you're talking about, you

Corey:

know, but she had the little simple thing on her forehead. And that was cute or so got her mom's a badass to just see

Brooksie:

the fact that she's stood up to the saber tooth or your Tiger and was just like ah I'm like holy smokes Dale.

Corey:

Well that's how you do it you know? No you gotta face was just like oh shit it's Wait I'm bigger than you what?

Unknown:

Wait, I'm bigger than you What are you doing?

Tanner:

Oh my god and then we moved into Episode Two which was all about Count Dooku and young Qui Gon and shit I thought I was back in ice age because quite often looks like the kids dad from Ice Age.

Unknown:

Teenage Qui Gon

Corey:

I don't know why that was Carl Weezer they're

Unknown:

quaking engine in the Dark Side of the Force. Are you gonna finish crossover? You can finish that quiet on whoever to car Weezer

Tanner:

but what about Ultra lard

Unknown:

machine? Oh no.

Corey:

Ah machine

Tanner:

is power. Dude I was like this year years old when I realized what Mrs. Fowler name was name meant and she was all bird like I was like today years old basically.

Corey:

Just makes

Unknown:

so much funny.

Tanner:

So fucked up.

Unknown:

She's the bird. You guys think that sometimes in the right light? Miss foul looks kinda

Corey:

he never finishes what he's saying. Every time he goes to say something like that. It just gets like Professor

Brooksie:

calamitous

Corey:

professor.

Unknown:

Call me Dog never finish. Which would have been quite good nicknames if he asked me for taking a test, oh yes, simple. I'll just get everything wrong. Your a's and b's are a thing of the past name the planets Farkle gub gub.

Brooksie:

And then professor, you know there's a general abercromby When they all get superpowers, the gunmen. And they just like that Carl burps in his face and it just explodes he's like sweet motherlode a chili

Tanner:

Wade how does how How the fuck did we end up on Jimmy Neutron? Well, it's a very logical

Brooksie:

very sided to talk like Carl Wiesner.

Tanner:

That's how we were just talking tales of the Jedi. Count Dooku has nothing to do with Carl Weezer,

Unknown:

the ultra Lord of the Sith.

Corey:

I fucking write it down. Write it down. I'll take that one happily

Unknown:

writing it down. Six. That's number six.

Tanner:

Ladies and gentlemen, this look that Corey always mentioned is the one that I'm doing now.

Unknown:

Haha,

Corey:

yeah, I know. Doo doo doo doo doo doo. I'm a pain in the ass. But yeah, Dooku and his patwon Qui Gon Jinn are sent to a planet whose name I can't remember.

Tanner:

Yes, a senator son was kidnapped by a local village. And this was the first. This whole episode was the first step on Dooku being disillusioned with the Senate and the Jedi.

Corey:

And I've never seen a happier captive. That kid was just like, damn, I didn't realize they were living like this. Well, I mean, glad I was kidnapped.

Brooksie:

It's justified. And look around you. There's pretty much everything's barren, gray and grim. People are sick and hungry.

Tanner:

So basically what my dad fucking sucks at his job like fuck my dad, man. And then

Brooksie:

the comment that you made about him. The son making the whole like, I'm disappointed in you to his own father.

Tanner:

At the end of that episode, his dad's like staring off into spit on the side of the speeder like the kid who just got picked up from the principal's office and son just stares at him like Fuck you, man.

Brooksie:

Yeah, like this is on you, you you mess this whole planet up.

Tanner:

But you saw that what must have been the first time that Dooku goes a little dark side in that episode. It's got

Brooksie:

to be I mean is he's fairly young. So at this point, he's, I'm sure he's probably had mixed feelings but seeing it like face to face on an actual planet for with a mission with his Padawan I'm sure he's like, Yeah, this this this isn't right. This is wrong. Dude.

Tanner:

It was it was it was good. It was really good because we know this that Qui Gon is his second paddle on yes we know that he had a paddle on previous to clog on rail Alpha Ross I think rial Alpha rail

Corey:

avarice, yeah, yes. So who gets you know, he he touches the dark side a little bit now and again and then he goes off and does his own thing. Yeah, right. Right, right. Yeah, the council ordered him to

Tanner:

and that's referenced in master and apprentice the novel by Claudia Gray. Fantastic. read anything. Claudia Gray writes, Star Wars is worth three hands down every time. Yep, every time. So he's been a Jedi Master for a little while now at this stage because he had Qui Gon since he was a young boy. And this is obviously Qui Gon who looks like he's coming towards the tail end of his apprenticeship.

Corey:

Starting to get a little stubble he looks a little older. Yeah, he did. It did not look like it was the first time he'd seen Dooku slip a little bit. He was like a little concern, but also like, well, oh shit, let me it was cool to

Tanner:

watch Dooku slept because he slipped for the right reasons. He watched the senator command his armed guard to fire upon this village. Because he didn't understand why what was going on with his son even though there was too Jedi right there saying you don't have the full story. Your son is perfectly fine. We're here investigating the Senator is like no, fucking arrest them or I'm gonna take care of it myself. And Dooku snapped when he saw the villagers gotten down. Yeah, he's like, alright, screw this literally chokes out the senator with a fork with the force turns around because quite young trying to intervene and force pushes him back. saying Don't fucking intervene. And he just goes after the senator and his guards. Yeah, and the only thing that stops him is Qui Gon thinking on his feet and releasing his son, his son can intervene in it. And like you said, it's obviously not the first time flagons witnessed him do something, a little Darkside kind of just knew what to do.

Corey:

And I love the Qui Gon kind of like, he doesn't do doesn't confront Dooku about it, at least not in that moment then, but he's just kind of like, Alright, I guess this will be our kind of like, little secret kind of thing is what it seemed like,

Brooksie:

I think I think it's more of a Qui Gon understanding like, like, it's not, it's not the Jedi way. But I can, I'm sure deep down. He's like, I understand why you're angry. Because these people are hurt. They're sick. They're done. And you have a powerful senator who's beating them down into the ground

Tanner:

just to get rich. Exactly. And so, what's cool about it, too, is like we had just mentioned it's not the first time he'd seen this and it's not like he didn't chastise Dooku for it that being the Jedi thing it shows that this is kind of quiet on realizing starting to understand that there is a will to the force and this is probably the forces will to do the right thing.

Brooksie:

Yes, yes. Because that's how Qui Gon that's how we he

Tanner:

lives by the living force not a cosmic force which is what we see Jedi manipulate when they use the Force he's He goes by the living force and what he feels through the from coming from the force

Corey:

Yes, I wonder if they're looking into prophecies yet at this point?

Tanner:

I would probably believe so. Could be believe it because this is after the quiet on we see in this is not is an older quiet. And then when we get in the flashbacks and master and apprentice.

Corey:

It feels like so they've probably been looking into like all that stuff. So there's that trust there.

Tanner:

Yeah, there is without a doubt without an app without a doubt. And then I love the line where quiet guns like I was just thinking on my feet. And that's how he operates. Yeah, and cloud and then Dooku goes then you're a wiser man than i Qui Gon Jim. And I love that line it like I have goosebumps right now thinking about it because Qui Gon was probably truly as wise as Master Yoda. Yeah, without the years,

Corey:

I would say I stand by the Qui Gon was probably what the Jedi should have been

Tanner:

all along. I believe that to be the case. I believe that as well that the bat Qui Gon Jinn represents what the Jedi are supposed to be, whereas Obi Wan his apprentice represents what the ideal Jedi is to the Jedi

Corey:

what the Jedi want to be. Yes, yeah. And I think that's also kind of showcased in the next episode. Because Mace Windu kind of ended up ends up being what Obi Wan would have been. Had he not been under the tutelage of Qui Gon and also had his experiences with Anakin

Tanner:

Okay, okay, we're gonna jump into this next episode. We're gonna jump into this next episode. Are you ready for this fucking hot take?

Brooksie:

Yeah, I already already know. Cool Fuck him,

Tanner:

but Mace Windu he is a piece of absolute shit. I will I have no desire to ever see anything with Mace Windu again, Buck you You fucked up and I cannot wait it's the first thing we saw your thought the Ahsoka and you also fucked up do you in the past get thought you are a literal piece of shit. You do not deserve to be a fucking Jedi Knight nor a council member.

Corey:

And he literally is on the like, just on the cusp of the dark side. Always he's trying to live by these like what a Jedi should be. But his fighting style is literally

Tanner:

channels the dark side yeah. channels the dark side of the other person and turns it back on them bringing him close to the edge of the dark side. Dude, I hate me swing do like I strongly disliked him strongly disliked him after probably clone wars with his rent when I really started to dislike him. But now I fucking hate him. The moment he

Corey:

called his Soca citizen I was just like, ah, yeah, my watch you get thrown out of a window. I'm gonna cheer I'm gonna cheer on grow goo off next to you.

Tanner:

Yeah, but the whole mission on in the in the second episode was they were supposed to go retrieve a Jedi Masters body who was ambushed. Well Dooku thinks there's something more to it then that and he basically does his own investigation even though he wasn't ordered to and realizes that not everything's what it seems. And the senator gets killed that there with by his guards. And the whole reason is because the again, a fat fucking senators you're going to sell off parts of this beautiful planet just to make himself rich and the people weren't going to have it. And that's why Jedi Master Qatari is her name and gets gunned down by them. And

Unknown:

Dooku

Tanner:

gets the information after dealing with the guards and after after they shot the Senator and they tried to kill him in mace. And they he gets the information and flashes forward to him talking to them in a prison cell. While I don't agree with your methods, I understand your point, basically, is what he says yeah. And then it flashes forward to them bringing master Qatari body back and it comes out that Mace is being put on the council. And mace basically says we had a mission. You went way outside of that mission scope. So of course they gave it to me.

Corey:

And I can see the disillusionment of Dooku in that like yes, he exceeded the mandate of the mission. What he routed out like literally was a corporate espionage what what would you would you call that

Tanner:

now? That's a straight espionage

Corey:

it's he routed out like there was there was like deception and everything in there.

Tanner:

Yeah, dude, I'm dude, I that that that episode will I will never I never want to see Mace Windu on the screen again. I I fucking am glad he is

Brooksie:

just just the fact that you are like getting so heated when after the second episode when we watched it with with Dooku story. I'm just like, wow.

Corey:

Well, it's weird. They make you like Dooku more than when do a series of episodes.

Brooksie:

It's like you said, and especially when we when we start talking about episode three of the Dooku ark of the Dooku Ark. He's very similar to the same things that Anakin went through in the delusion of the Jedi and the Republic and the Republic. So you watch you watch this. And before we've watched Anakin, you, you compare notes and it's just like, what they did, it was justified. Them being angry and upset with the Jedi Order. They have every right to be upset with the Jedi Order.

Tanner:

The Jedi are not what they were meant to be. And that's repeated multiple times the Jedi are shills of the Senate. You claimed to be about peace and justice. But you're all about law in order. Yeah. And for the for the rich of the Senate.

Corey:

Yeah, they're very much in league with the Republic to the point where they're not operating on their own as their own investigators. They even mentioned in the show. You work for the Senate, therefore, you

Tanner:

work for me and Dooku has tries to sit there and say no, we work for the people of the Republic. And that's his thing is he realizes that no, the Jedi are not working for the people of the Republic anymore. And we've through stories that are canon and not canon. That's been kind of breadcrumbed in there that you know, he was disillusioned with the Jedi and how they serve the Senate.

Corey:

I can think of a specific Anakin and Obi Wan comic where goes through almost the exact same thing. He's like these people need help. Master Obi Wan, why aren't we helping them? And it's like, well, the Senate won't let us help. So we have to find our own little tricky ways to get that to happen, but we can't directly intervene. No.

Tanner:

So Dooku had tales of the Jedi makes Dooku one of the most another tragic character in Star Wars almost as tragic as Anakin. Yeah, I mean, Anakin and Obi Wan both go through more personal loss in my opinion, but their arcs are tragic. Yeah. Just my hot take on it.

Brooksie:

No, it's, it's very accurate. And then

Tanner:

the fourth episode of The Dooku Ark, or 33rd episode for for this episode of Tales of Jedi. Is Duke whose turn it is Duke who's turned to the dark side, that whole episode, it starts off with him going into the Jedi archives and deleting cammino from the archives.

Brooksie:

Nice, yes. Which was cool, because we got we got to see, you know, what was done. The fact that he used cipher D SS access and name to delete it. You know, and then a little jumping ahead a little bit we do say that, you know, cipher DS, the clones, all of this, you know, it's we're we're getting what I mean, we've seen bits and pieces of it in the Clone Wars series, but we're seeing how he did it. We're seeing what he did to take those steps.

Tanner:

Well, what I liked about episode four, too, is that it takes place in and around Phantom Menace. Yeah, yes, it wasn't clear. Up until this when Dooku left the order and when Qui Gon died.

Corey:

The fact that he has an interaction with Qui Gon, like in that period of time, when Anakin has been brought to the temple, and before they go back to Naboo that like my heart hurts, knowing that there was an interaction and Qui Gon speaks highly of Obi Wan. So an attack of the clones when it goes like Qui Gon spoke very highly of you like literally the day you die.

Tanner:

Yeah. The whole thing is rough. Honestly, because Dooku augments when do you do? Do kids do Duke who is a better character than mace? Windu?

Unknown:

Yeah. I don't know I can agree with what happened if he said Oh, I like

Corey:

Duke who has layers, right? He really does. You see he is struggling in that moment. He goes to Palpatine who voiced by as much as I love Sam what we're doing the voice of Count Dooku to have Ian McDermott back doing the Emperor Palpatine voice.

Brooksie:

You mean Sam went we're doing Palpatine Yeah, what did I say? You said Count Dooku

Corey:

Oh, whatever. So what I mean what we're doing

Tanner:

but not not only that, having Liam Neeson voice Qui Gon in that episode. Oh my

Brooksie:

god. Yes. Oh, my God, having them having them both back both portray their characters was it was perfect. Perfect.

Corey:

I imagined like the same day that they showed up to do the Obi Wan cameos. They were just like, Hey, you want to step into this side studio and just do some ADR real quick?

Brooksie:

Yeah, probably. They probably did at that point.

Tanner:

Oh, yeah. And then I love the interaction too, because yeah, battles involved in the interaction. Yeah. And we don't ever get a lot on yandell other than she's the only other species of Yodas. At that time that we know about before grow goo is introduced. And it's a brief moment on screen.

Corey:

She's in episode one for a second in the council scene. And then she's gone by episode two.

Tanner:

Yeah. And she consents, something's up with Dooku the entire time. And she just gets this feeling that when she sees Dooku out by the tree, the Jedi Temple. Yep. And he goes, Qui Gon was obsessed with history. I used to bring him on here all the time when he was a boy. And this is as she's trying to convince him to go to the funeral on Naboo. Right, which is even more tragic, because he's mourning the loss of quiet gone in, but he won't. He's not going to be there at the funeral. And by him not being there that sparks a lot in their conversation. She's like, something's up and she follows Dooku and do goo goes to the industrial sector, of course, where he meets up with palps. And the Atle follows him in and palps is basically like, oh, you betrayed me. And he's like, No, I haven't. And he's like, alright, prove it killer. Kill the batch.

Brooksie:

But, but I want to go back a little bit. We see we see a lot of it happen in the Clone Wars. series, but the fact that he's like, do you use Dooku says, Do you not trust me? Or do you question my loyalty and Palpatine is like, always? Yeah, yeah, right there that right there was perfect because we see it in the Clone Wars. Time. And again,

Tanner:

and he also says something to when he was telling him he's like, I can't believe you let Malkiel Qui Gon he could have been a powerful ally. Palpatine goes for you.

Brooksie:

Yes. Yes. Which, you know, we know for a fact that like you had said, Cory, that this was right around the time he had become chancellor. So judging by based based on time of day that was I'm gonna go on a limb and say that Palpatine was very well getting ready to kill Plagueis that evening.

Corey:

He would if that's still canon, he was probably on his way to quiet guns funeral which hurts even more

Tanner:

Yeah, yes. It to see him come off the fucking the ship all smiling and like trying to be Chancellor Palpatine Yes. Oh, dude, it's fucking it shows you how good Palpatine was as a felon, although he shouldn't ever come back again. But that's another

Brooksie:

point. No, I agree.

Corey:

Somehow Palpatine returned again Again. Again. But yeah, just seeing like you were saying with Quagga and saying like a sorry Mall. Dooku saying that quite so many somebody's name.

Unknown:

I gotcha.

Corey:

That kind of broke my heart because it was Dooku was really really on the fence the entire time. He didn't want to kill Yeah, battle. No, he didn't. But with Palpatine right there. And the only way to solidify change in the galaxy, in his point of view, was to get rid of Yes, yes. And I love how you think that when he closes the door on her. Literally he shuts out the light? Yeah, in that scene. So their use of lighting in that episode

Tanner:

is throughout all of duikers episodes, it shows it is like the difference of Dooku turning towards the darkness and another Jedi turning towards the light throughout the entire series. And if you notice it, I noticed that every time he turns toward the darkness, the darkness gets darker.

Brooksie:

Yes, yeah. Especially when they're in the temple. And it's him and Yato walking the opposite way. Oh, yeah, that was that was the symbolism in Tales of the Jedi. It's very well done.

Tanner:

It's unbelievable. And I loved it. It may it gave the Dooku arc that we absolutely needed. And it's

Brooksie:

good because I personally don't know much about him. But I got to see a lot of the behind the scenes. And a lot of questions were answered in my opinion. And I was like, it all makes sense now,

Tanner:

but it's not only like you said that you thought that when the door drops that kills you. I don't know. She comes back in and he's like, now I have to kill you and just fucking point blank. She's unarmed defenseless and he just answer you. I

Corey:

liked that because it left it a little open ended if she just got squished like maybe she made it out the other side of the door or whatever. No, they have that little moment where there's another sliver of light sliver of hope. Maybe he won't do it. And then you see like the smoke rising from her body afterwards. Yeah, in the far off and it just solidifies that like so good. This is where Dooku becomes Darth Tarantal This is his Anakin cutting off mace Windows hand. Yeah, moment.

Brooksie:

The best thing that I did notice after watching it twice, is if you pay attention to Papa Dean's eyes when he's conversing with Dooku his eyes are blue. After he kills Yeah, rattle his eyes change the typical Seth yellow. And that's a good segue and that symbolism in my opinion, because it shows that okay, now I have a new tool to use for the next stage of my plan.

Tanner:

We're just so good, dude. It's perfect. The storytelling through the imagery is unbelievable.

Corey:

And it shows that like Palpatine is turnaround on apprentices is like lightning fast. Well, I mean, well, within the hour, he's got a new apprentice already

Tanner:

colleague, he had a new apprentice when before mall died, basically, he was using he knew Ma was going to die that whole time. He was already setting in motion his plan to use Dooku

Brooksie:

Yes. Yes, I know. This is more again, more in the Plagueis book. So it hasn't been like confirmed but Plagueis saw Mall as a tool. Nothing more and Palpatine thought the same thing. You're just the tool nothing

Tanner:

more. Well, it wasn't and it wasn't until Anna can basically was revealed that he didn't he was going to probably just roll with Dooku and be able to do it all himself with Dooku. Reza was apprentice, but then Anakin was revealed and you're just like, nope, fuck that. I'm gonna set a plan in motion because this guy is now expendable. Yep.

Corey:

When do you think Palpatine officially was just like, oh, Anakin. He says, like, well watch your career with great interest. But when do you think Palpatine found out like, oh, that's the chosen one be

Tanner:

Oh, okay. Well,

Brooksie:

I want him on.

Tanner:

So here's my take on this. He knew the moment they first arrived, in course, and because they brought because he's a senator from Naboo. And they're bringing the queen of Naboo and obviously shits gonna get reported to him that that they we picked up a stray on tattooing, and they're bringing him before the Jedi Council. So do so

Corey:

I could have been like any old regular. Yeah, you know, Jedi go on the, what are they called? Not the pathfinders. But they have the people that go out specifically to find new recruits. Yeah,

Tanner:

but I just like I said, I just have this feeling. He's like, what? And then the fact that oh, he's going back with you. He's going with you again.

Unknown:

Oh, he must be some special. Yeah, exactly. So maybe Dooku told

Tanner:

them, but that's the other.

Brooksie:

That's what I'm thinking. I think that, you know, there was probably some type of interaction or maybe just do goo had a sense in the Force. Like, there's somebody here that super powerful.

Tanner:

There's a million different ways that can get

Brooksie:

through. It's an open unanswered question.

Tanner:

And I'm okay with that. I don't need any I don't need a definite answer to it ever. I don't even he knows. The plan was the everything that was set in motion was that in motion? It it happens. So, but honestly, I can't wait to watch the last few episodes of it. I know you've got a little bit before you can show it to Anita or you.

Brooksie:

You both are gonna love the last two, especially episode

Corey:

five. That one looks like the most interesting like it's gonna have some, you know, fun work character. Yeah,

Brooksie:

it's it's very good. Episode Five is very good. The last

Corey:

one is nice. I don't like what it has contradicted from the book from the novel.

Brooksie:

But it's it's a quick tidbit. I mean, again, these episodes are 20 minutes long. So it's not like they're changing a huge amount. The core elements are still there. Yes,

Tanner:

no, but I know I can't wait to watch the rest of it. I can't wait to catch the lightning at the end of Andorra as as it comes out. I'm loving the place that Star Wars is in. Earlier in this episode. I mentioned that I'm questioning where Marvel's at. But I am not questioning Star Wars anymore. No, I was after the sequel trilogy. I'm not questioning it anymore.

Brooksie:

No, I'm 100% with you there. I think that what they're doing with Star Wars right now is they're definitely they're definitely keeping it.

Tanner:

Well, earlier. We hyped on the thing that harped on the thing that Kathleen shut the fuck up about announcing stuff. Yeah, that being said, don't like keep telling the stories you're selling telling cuz they're coming out beautifully in my opinion. Yes.

Corey:

My favorite part of tales of the Jedi is that it's a Dave Filoni baby. It's he thought of this on like a plane somewhere, just fleshing out these stories. And as much as I'm excited for the Ahsoka stuff, the Dooku. Laura was what I was looking forward to. Yeah. And they nailed it for me.

Tanner:

Yeah, because there's so much unknown about Dooku. There really is. And Ahsoka has been touched upon so many times in so many different media's or mediums already between Clone Wars. rebels in the Mandalorian stuff. I mean, look at Boba Fett, we've had a lot of Ahsoka, we know her story. Dooku story is always been alluded to, yeah,

Corey:

we get a little bit of it and clone wars and then like some books and stuff, but this is a nice way to get the wider audience like, here's a little 15 minute thing that shows like why he is the way he is perfect. Yeah.

Tanner:

From almost from where I've seen to in the house of the Jedi, I'm giving it a 9.5.

Corey:

Can Can we stop for a second and talk about how so going back and watching the clone wars with the NIDA and then watching this, the animation has taken leaps and bounds. And we sent to LA

Tanner:

and we saw it in in seven were in season seven where it really started to push boundaries like that Pixar animation was really coming in. You're marrying to the Cartoon Network based in animation that we had with Clone Wars. And it's beautiful.

Corey:

I want every project moving forward. That's an animation to be in this style. Just keep it

Brooksie:

Yeah, I agree with that. This this style. Well, it holds well, and it looks good. And they they've improved it drastically.

Tanner:

So what's your rating guys on on tales of the Jedi? Minds? 9.5

Brooksie:

I've watched all of it 10 times.

Tanner:

Oh shit, dad is high praise. Wow.

Corey:

I'm missing one episode and so far I will say it's out of like a nine, a nine out of 10 for me that one episode, it will probably push it over. But as of right now I feel like they're kind of short. They're cute episodes. They're fun. Not super consequential though.

Brooksie:

Yeah, I just I think it's, I think it deserves a 10 out of 10 because we see where Ahsoka comes from how her people operate her village, specifically, where her courage comes from from her mother. The interaction that she has with her mother, it's a lot of courage, you need to face death Ahsoka, which she learns to do that through the Clone Wars Dooku we see his tragedy, his loss and his fall, and how he became a apprentice for Darth Sidious. The last two episodes I won't get into detail for you both are good examples of Ahsoka, applying what her mom taught her when she was an infant to face stuff. Excellent, excellent. And I think all I'm going to say I will just say this, I think in episode five of tales of the Jedi, Anakin supports that by he supports her mom's teachings drastically. That's all I'm gonna say on that. So I in my opinion, 10 out of 10

Unknown:

Damn, okay,

Corey:

I can't wait to finish

Brooksie:

I can't wait to finish it either. I know for a fact you both are gonna love it. Especially you because you get to see a lot of you get to see a lot more of her. Working with Anakin and you because you get to see a lot of the form movements.

Tanner:

Oh, god. Yeah.

Brooksie:

Especially in season five. Excuse me, Episode Five. Episode Six is good. There's, that's yeah, I want to talk about it. But I don't want to say anything. I don't want to spoil it for you both. Um, that's all

Tanner:

well, I think I know what I'm doing tonight. And I'm probably gonna finish it. Yeah,

Corey:

I'm gonna wait until she falls asleep. And I'm just gonna like, go to the bathroom and watch it on my phone. Yeah. Oh,

Brooksie:

my God. Just you guys will love it.

Tanner:

All right. Well, guys, thanks for joining us this week.

Corey:

This has been another wonderful episode of Dorkside Nexus. Lovely to be in the studio with you guys.

Brooksie:

Be sure to stay hydrated and it's getting cold out there. So definitely wear a sweater or a scarf.

Tanner:

I'm low on gas and you look like you need a jacket.

Corey:

Don't forget to wear a condom and be nice to people.

Tanner:

And on that note, guys, stay hydrated. And we'll see you

Unknown:

in the Nexus

Tanner:

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