Dorkside Nexus

Wait Something's missing... Oi! Why isn't Papa Palpatine with The Boys?

July 13, 2022 Tanner Season 2 Episode 11
Dorkside Nexus
Wait Something's missing... Oi! Why isn't Papa Palpatine with The Boys?
Show Notes Transcript

This week Tanner and Corey Got together to do some catch up because it's been a crazy couple of weeks for them. 

No Papa Paplatine this week sadly but he will be back in the next episode. 

Corey:

It's been so long. I don't know if I can do this anymore. Hello, everybody and welcome to another episode of the Dorkside. Nexus. My name is Cory. And as always, my name is Tanner. And we are without our good friend, Papa Palpatine Brooksie this week, because we're just doing a real quick, you know, housekeeping episode. Just let you know, we're still here.

Tanner:

Yeah, we're still here. We've just been busy as all sin.

Corey:

Yes, I, myself have been moving, starting a new job. Same story as last year, but a little bit more gracefully. This time. I'm getting a desk built for my studio and everything. So I'm really excited a lot of change happening.

Tanner:

I've recently started a new job as well. And last week, I picked up a bunch of shifts, and that was 82 hours worked last week, just because we'll be doing that for a few weeks. But it's nice to be back talking to you guys. And uh, Cory, I missed this. And like Cory said at the top of the episode with this feels weird. I think I forgot how to do this.

Corey:

I know. Well, and especially not having a third person to, to juggle off of here. It's kinda, it's kind of nice. It's an intimate experience. I feel like I'm interviewing you. But it's weird.

Tanner:

We were talking about this just before we started recording. Well, I just looked them up. Oh my god. It's so empty without Brooksie here.

Corey:

Just a million song lyrics if I'm empty without you

Tanner:

know, but like we were just saying we've just been really busy. So we wanted to catch up and talk about the little tiny bit of nerdy stuff we've actually been able to accomplish in the last couple of weeks. But, Cory, what do you been up to?

Corey:

I'm not at all a whole heck of a lot. I've had a lot of time to listen to podcasts and audiobooks. Yeah. And the last couple of weeks. A couple of interesting ones I hear voices is a great podcast hosted by the voices of Kim Possible and Ron stoppable. They've had some amazing guests on that show. They had Troy Baker, who's the voice of the Joker in the Arkham games. He's a huge voice actor. They had a bunch of other people to it very, very fun podcast to listen to. I also listened to and this is probably the most nerdy thing I've had a chance to do in the last few weeks. Tell me more. There is a new Star Wars canon novel called Shadow of the Sith. And it is an a, an essential Star Wars novel, I would say. I basically acts as episode 6.5 bridging the story between return to the Jedi and Force Awakens, if you want to be upset about that, and you want to say, Oh, well, it's just they're just trying to fix the sequels. Well, yeah, but it's about essentially in Rise of Skywalker. When they run into Lando Lando says that he and Luke were chasing after OG of festoon, who was chasing after Ray, this book is exactly what happened in my head when they mentioned that scene in the movie. And I go, that sounds like a cool story. Exactly what we get in this book, and it does a lot to tie a lot of the different Star Wars content that we've had in the last few years like there's references to the aftermath books. There's you know, prequel sequel, CLONE WARS REBELS stuff. It's all in this book. And I highly recommend it. I Adam Christopher,

Tanner:

I plan on getting it. I remember when they released the excerpt of it. And I read the excerpt and I'm absolutely intrigued by it. Definitely. It sounds like it's an like you said a must read. In that excerpt this isn't really any major spoilers because you can find it online. And Luke essentially has a vision of X uncle X like all Thank you, cotton. Sorry, but and he ends up also seeing Anakin forest ghost with a lightsaber in the excerpt. Yep. So there's a lot that I'm very intrigued about. In that story. I myself haven't been keeping up on a lot of stuff lately, either, just because I've been so busy. But I did finally sit down and watch the boys and I binged it all the way through until the finale of season three. I won't talk about it. Because Cory hasn't seen Season Three yet. Yes, I've seen one and two, but not three. And I'm really kind of disappointed myself or sleeping on this show for so long.

Corey:

I go back into the previous episodes and you will hear me saying, watch the boys. It's so good.

Tanner:

Yeah. I mean, I knew Jensen Ackles was coming into it because being a fan of supernatural, I'm like, All right, he's coming in. He's gonna play soldier boy, I like Jensen, I'll put the show on to start watching it. And when I say I binged it, I binged it, that the, the show is just so good. And um, it does such a good job making fun of the superhero genre. And I love every aspect of that, like, yeah, it's absolutely ridiculous. It's gory, it's violent. It's perfect. In my eyes. It's great TV. Did you know it was nominated for an Emmy for Best Drama? I wouldn't be surprised. That's drama, though.

Corey:

It's dramatically the fun thing about it is yes, it's all these fantastical superheroes, and it's super hilarious. But it's also there are character ties and their arcs. And there are things that happen in that show that are very dramatic.

Tanner:

This is the for those of you who are familiar with supernatural, the showrunner of that, who created the show and did the first five seasons is Eric crypkey, is the same guy who's in charge of the boys. This is basically Eric crypkey. With the gloves off. He doesn't have any network television constraints to abide to, he can just do mostly whatever he wants on screen. And for those of you who haven't seen season three, there is an episode called Hero gasm, which is based off of part of the comics. And if you aren't familiar with either, everything about that episode can be explained in that name.

Corey:

I can only imagine just from the first two seasons, there's the whale scene just comes to mind all I can think of

Tanner:

the whales to know, you know, having seen here orgasm and laughing and finding that to be just great entertainment value. I still think the whale scene is the single best scene and the boys just because it's just so out of right field. You don't see it coming.

Corey:

Now, and that show does that to great effect. It's the subversion of expectations. Yep. Like you think something's about to happen. And they just change it up on you. They got exploding people. And just go going back to Season One, that first first big incident, the first

Tanner:

big incident in the first five minutes of the show. Yeah.

Corey:

And the character of Huey if, again, if you haven't seen it goes through a lot of stuff and a lot of character development, and

Tanner:

it continues into season three, his character develops even further and season three. Some of its good some of its bad.

Corey:

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Karl Urban.

Tanner:

Karl Urban, of course, is fantastic. Anthony star as home lander, the dude to be able to play that character. He alone needs to win. He needs to win Emmys himself, because that is not a character I can imagine is easy to play.

Corey:

No, there's a lot of complexities to the home lender. Yeah. It's basically like, like, what if Superman weren't raised by like a loving family? What if you were raised in a lab? Other Yeah. Other circumstances that do not allow a child to grow up with support and with love for themselves? Like don't know where to put that? Yeah. And throw in the ability to like rip a human being apart with no effort or Yeah, laser vision.

Tanner:

And then what happens when you take the same person and put them on a pedestal and make them think he's a literal God?

Corey:

They get a god complex.

Tanner:

It's just such a fantastic show. The character development is real, and I think it wouldn't be as good if he wasn't played so well. Jack Quaid. Dennis Quaid son is unbelievable. Really? Yeah. He didn't know he was Dennis Quaid? No, I didn't know that either. When I started watching and already thought I was like, What do you mean, look at him. He looks like he's Dennis Quaid kid. And I'm like, kind of he looks like a scrawny version of them. But he's so good in the show. And I watched a few interviews with a lot of the cast. And they've even said that a lot of times when they're trying to get those comedic moments even in the middle of like, all hell breaking loose in the show. They rely on Jack because he understands comedy is not necessarily always in the delivery. It's in the reaction to it as well.

Corey:

And it makes sense in a show that is all about superpowers in the fantastical who is the character that gets to ground us. I mean butcher to but butcher is kind of like that he's completely desensitized to all the all the violence that he's you know, taking part in

Tanner:

Who's the actor that plays Hueys? Dad? Oh goodness. Shosh in China the dead

Corey:

been a hot man.

Tanner:

I can't remember him.

Corey:

Oh, I'm DS and everything. Yeah, he's in Montgomery, Scotty from from the Star Trek, Simon Pegg, Simon

Tanner:

Pegg. So when the comics were written, sigh It's the author of the comics actually had Simon Pegg in mind when he created the character of Huey. And if you go in the comics, it literally looks like Simon Pegg. And he had an always envisioned if it ever became a show that Simon Pegg would play. And that's why they have him playing Hueys dad, because it

Corey:

kind of aged out from that kind of role. But that's really cool. I

Tanner:

didn't know that. Yeah, it's actually a really cool nod to the original creator of the comics. I

Corey:

like Simon Pegg and anything that he's in for the most part, Shaun of the Dead Hot Fuzz. Paul. He's even he's even in The Force Awakens actually. Unkar Plutt.

Tanner:

Yes, yes, that's right. He is a carpet a character

Corey:

who is referenced in the shadow of the Sith novel that I will not let people sleep on. It is a good book.

Tanner:

And also at the time of this recording, guys. Thor love and Thunder has released, Corey has seen it neither Brooksie nor myself have. So we're not going to really talk about it until we all catch up about it. We're going Friday, right? This Friday. We're all going down to Hadley to see it. That's the plan. Yeah, that'll be the first time I see it. I just with work. It's been, unfortunately, too busy for me to go.

Corey:

I timing worked out and I hate running into spoilers on the interwebs. So I just I I went okay,

Tanner:

though, I have a question about the internet. Why is it we're good about keeping spoilers under wraps for fucking movies. But when it comes to television shows, we're just like, spoilers everywhere. Like I saw it with Kenobi constantly. I saw so many things. Spoiling what happened in the episode before I got to see the episode later that night.

Corey:

I was like, I saw baby Yoda. Before I had watched the pilot episode of the Mandalorian. Because I went online and it's one of those like, oh, people get all upset. If you spoil a movie. There's like embargo, not embargoes, but not on regular people. But TV shows people watch at their own pace it releases at home, you get to you know, be the first person that 3am If you live on the on the East Coast like us,

Tanner:

and but at the same time, some of us have to be at work at you know, six, eight o'clock in the morning and can't watch it till that night.

Corey:

And their logic is well, if you don't have time to watch the show, you don't have time to be on the internet browsing and seeing what I've said,

Tanner:

What do you mean, if I get a break at work? It's easy to be on my phone.

Corey:

I I know exactly what you're saying. I just don't have the self control to like not scroll through Facebook. I know, people just want to make sure that they're the first person who's seen something and the first person to talk about it. And that's not always what it's about, you know, I'll say I've seen Thor love and thunder. I liked it. I enjoyed it very much. And I would recommend that you go see it as well. If you're expecting Thor Ragnarok it's not exactly that. And that's okay.

Tanner:

And that's fine. I want to see something different. Honestly, we saw Ty could do get away with what he did in Ragnarok with that story and make it what it was. I want to see what else he can do with that character.

Corey:

Yes, I look forward to talking with talking to you guys about it once you guys have seen it. Yeah, there there are some things that one that I would like to discuss but not not recognize of yet because I don't want to spoil it for you guys.

Tanner:

And it's the same thing with Miss Marvel. I haven't seen it yet. But you in Brooksie of

Corey:

I'm enjoying it very much the most recent Episode Episode Five, I will admit I watched it very late at night. So I did end up kind of like counting out for a little bit. But once I came back in good show. It's very fun. So far. It's different. It's Marvel being different. We had multiverse of madness and moon night, which were very much those like, hard hitting, you know, scary level. Yeah, scary action stuff. And then Miss Marvel gives, you know, gives you a chance to just step into something else for a minute,

Tanner:

which is nice. We can't honestly the effect does wear off even for me it does some of that hard hitting Marvel stuff. And I think you know, that's why I didn't watch hockey because I think at that point I was still kind of burnt out from Marvel shows.

Corey:

I I still say you should watch Hawkeye even. It may not be the best thing Marvel has ever produced but boy, it has a lot of heart. And it's a really fun show.

Tanner:

And like I said I'll get around to it eventually once I get settled into my new life and my work schedule and stuff like that. But I do think have widened watch it is because we had so many Marvel shows released last year that I at that stage, I was just kind of burnt out for it of that. And I think that's again, what happened with Star Wars for a hot minute there too. And that's why I've talked to a lot of people who didn't watch the Mandalorian until it was out for a while. And some of them have echoed that sentiment of, I didn't watch it, because there was just so much Star Wars really saying at that time, that I needed a break from it.

Corey:

And sometimes it's nice, especially with some of the stories that they're doing now to give yourself a little bit of a break, let the entire story come out, which is a thing we talked about with Obi Wan Kenobi, and then be able to, you know, Netflix does this, like binge Release, release style. So you sit there and you just watch your entire show, and you don't get the time to like sit and really think on every, you know, every every episode. And the thing they do with the Star Wars is they'll do maybe like one episode two episodes, you know, at once, and then you know, it's weekly, you get to sit and stew on stuff. Sometimes Star Wars works better when it can be one cohesive experience.

Tanner:

Yes. And so with that season three of the boys, Amazon Prime released it with the first three episodes releasing at one time, and then they went to weekly releases for the rest. Which I in my humble opinion, depending on the property and the story you've put together for that property, that might be the ideal way to go with it. If you've put out the first three episodes to get us going and whatnot, and get us excited for the next episodes, I think that's an intelligent way to do it. Because when I started watching the boys see episode five of season three just released and I was able to binge up to that point. And then I watched sixth, seventh and eighth the week they came out. And I actually liked being able to do that. Because it gave me something to look forward to. And it gave me what the kind of the goals were for the season. So I was like, Okay, what are they going to do with these, these things they've laid out in front of us? And I think with two episodes of Obi Wan, they, they could have gone done that. And they did actually it was it would have been tough for three episodes to come out. No, they should have actually had three episodes come out because three is when we see Vader.

Corey:

I don't know. I'm really not sure about that. Because I've heard people say that they would prefer it if it were just one episode to begin with. But that's deceptive. The first episode of Obi Wan is entirely him alone in the desert, it sets a different tone. But then you have him get off world. And then you're like, Okay, this is going to be a galaxy hoppin romp with, you know, with a different feel to it. Yeah. And we were talking before we recorded to while we're talking about Obi Wan. I agree, I think that that particular project would have been better as a movie

Tanner:

I do as well. And that's not to take away from the series. Because I thoroughly enjoyed the series. I just think that project would have been better as a movie, as well. There was an edit I saw on YouTube where somebody did took out a lot of filler scenes and camera cuts and whatnot, and edited it down into a movie. And it did flow much better. Especially when they're on naret for fortress inquisitorial, I feel like there was a lot of filler in that episode, as well as the episode before and after that. So it was nice to see it edited down in such a way that sped everything up. Because at times, it just felt like there was fluff in the show.

Corey:

And that just it comes down to making sure that the story that you're telling matches the medium in which you're telling it. Yeah. And I think I mean, there's times you can do that all over the place like the Hobbit, I find those three movies to be a little bit tedious, and they stray away from like what the book actually was doing. Yeah, there's a version of those three movies that have been cut down to one that I absolutely adore. It's so close to the book. It ignores all the like prequels, the filler stuff, and it just tells the story of Bilbo for the most part. And I feel like there's a version of Obi Wan Kenobi that just tells the story of Obi Wan Kenobi. And the other characters that he can have, you know, affect and inspire. I saw this thing. It was from the original writer of the trilogy of Obi Wan films that it was supposed to be and, and he was talking about how they were they were. The story that we got is very different than the story that was originally written there was more about reverse she was supposed to die at the hand of Vader, and it was it was supposed to be more of a relative revelation to her the Anakin was Darth Vader. There was a whole part where or commander Cody, the show opens up but the movie would open up with this clone stalking after Obi Wan. And then he's like, got him up against the wall and he's like you're dead. And then it turns out to be like, Oh, they're buddies. And that's just him saying like, Come on, man, you're supposed to be a Jedi, you're better than this, you know, you're in hiding, you gotta be careful, you're dead, you're dead if you don't. And it would have been, you know, Cody would have stayed behind with Luke while Obi Wan does his adventure. And it's a very different version of that story. And I don't know which one's better. The one we got is perfect. And I'm happy that we have it.

Tanner:

Like I said, there's filler in it. But I think it the series did a great job of telling the story that everyone wanted slash needed to know about. And they wrapped a lot of things up that people called plot holes very well and did a great job. They really did. I just don't know, which would have been better. And it's also the same thing with rise of Skywalker versus the original duel of the fates script. As much as I think duel of the fates sounds like a better movie having knowing what I know about the script. Does it mean it would have landed as well?

Corey:

Well, that's the thing. You know, had that movie come out, somebody would have been like, oh, it relies too heavily on the previous stuff. This rise of Skywalker script sounds a lot better. I mean, I, the grass is still I still want to live in that timeline. Like I want to hop into that one and see what happens. But,

Tanner:

you know, as always, the grass is greener on the other side. Exactly. And this is what we have. And it's as much as we know, I disliked the sequel trilogy. From what you're telling me, we're getting that course correction to make it so that the things that happened? Make sense.

Corey:

Yes. Yeah. No, they're telling the story of like, that shadow of the Sith book, like I said, is very, there's a lot of Luke but there's also you know, og of festoon. And it ties into like the Darth Vader comics, and it's just, people are gonna say, Oh, they're just trying to fix the mistakes of the sequels. No, they're writing, and they're filling in the story. It's the same thing that the, that the Clone Wars did to bridge the prequels and the and the original trilogy, it's the same thing that Obi Wan Kenobi does to bridge, the prequels and the original trilogy.

Tanner:

Now, I will say what I liked them to have given us that backstory. Yeah, cuz that's been my biggest complaint is how did we arrive here? What transpired in the 3040 years since the original trilogy, to bring Luke to this point? What was it that transpired? And Star Wars, George Lucas himself even had this problem with he, again, with the pre release a prequel trilogies? And then went on to do the Clone Wars series to fill in the gaps? And I think that's always been what Star Wars is, is okay. Here's where we are. Here's where we were, you guys don't know what happened in between. Now, we'll fill it in. And look at Mandalorian. That's what's happening with that show.

Corey:

And it's great, because it has such a wide time period to fill in. Yeah, whereas, you know, the more and more products that come out between episodes, three and four, you know, in that rebels Obi Wan solo, I could name 30 other projects that are now filling in these story concepts. And or exactly. The only problem is they're making so much stuff to fill this in. I'm worried that we're going to get to the point that now so many stories have been filled in by random obscure stuff that they're going to start overlapping, overlapping and ignoring each other. And with the same problem that's in the old EU.

Tanner:

Yeah. Now, there's a lot of stuff from the old EU, that's great. But at the same time, a lot of that stuff, George Lucas would not have even considered canon. And he let he basically rented out space in his sandbox, as some people would say to these guys. And it was his sandbox, so he could throw whatever you put it. If he if it was released, he could still throw it out. And that's how it

Corey:

was, for a long time. There were like the different levels of Star Wars canon, there was like the G canon, which was the George canon, which was episodes one through six. That's it. And then the Clone Wars came out. And there were a couple of things and then like a book or two that originally came out that he's like, oh, yeah, the Revenge of the Sith book. That's canon.

Tanner:

I'm also pretty sure a very popular piece of the AU. He was absolutely not a fan of and that was Mara Jade.

Corey:

Yep. Yeah, he did not like Mara Jade or giving Luke like a real love interest. Yeah, pretty sure he didn't

Tanner:

like that. And he's the creator. So as much as we all want marriage aid or some form of marriage aid, we're not getting it. He'd never wanted it. I don't think Disney wants to cry. SnapBridge because they're telling an entirely different story, which is fine. If they fill in the pieces, we're good. What would there was something else that I wanted to say on this, the thought train left the station and now I can't recover it. It was something along those lines. Mara Jade became like the sea list cannon.

Corey:

The different levels of cannon George didn't even agree with. Yeah, one of the things

Tanner:

and Disney's picking and choosing now which actually is kind of nice because they can pick things that fit into their story.

Corey:

Exactly like it's not going to be a completely one to one like throne. The throne that is in the original books is not the throne that we have in the canon.

Tanner:

That's right. And let's take Star Killer as another example of this. So dark killer was Vader's apprentice, and he cannot exist in canon, there can't

Corey:

Yeah, there can be a character running around named Galen Marek, but he cannot be the same character with the same force, you know,

Tanner:

he cannot be able to throttle Darth Vader,

Corey:

even if he can't just pull a star destroyer out of the sky. Now with almost no effort,

Tanner:

it makes no sense for him to exist. In this and someone I'm seeing things around. So I saw either was on Twitter or on YouTube. Someone's saying, Oh, they're casting Christian Bale as Galen Marek and Star Killer. I'm like, first of all, know what first just No. Second of all, how about you we call Sam wetware. For that,

Corey:

if no, for real, if you're gonna cast anyone as Star Killer, dude, I better be the guy who originally voiced him, I

Tanner:

would be pissed voiced him and Mo captain. I mean, that was when

Corey:

Moe cup was really starting to become a thing. Yeah.

Tanner:

And they followed that mo cap example and to fall in order with cow and which was great. So that's just my opinion of it. You know, other things I've been seeing lately, though, guys. And this is something I just saw today. And I actually have it pulled up on my computer right now. Chris Evans has basically responded to the rumors of him possibly reprising his role as Steve Rogers. And he said, Sam Wilson is Captain America. And I went down a Twitter thread of people saying no, that's not true. Your Captain America Sam's not cap. He's Falcon. I'm like, stop. And it really is frustrating because Cory and I talked about this with Superman. And with Captain America earlier, they are I deals they are the Superman is the ideal hero, essentially, someone who's raised good and his ultimate good. And Captain America stands for the ideals of what America can be. So Steve handed his shield to Sam Wilson because he saw what he could represent moving forward with the shield. And I'll be honest, and Korean, I've talked about this before, when we were talking about the winter, the Falcon Winter Soldier show, it would have been very, very difficult for me to just have jumped into a movie with him as Captain America. We've talked about that. But they gave us a show of him coming to terms with being worthy to carry the shield. And now, at the end of that show, I look at him and I see Captain America. I don't see Falcon anymore. Yeah, he's got the wings. But that's his equalizer for not being a super soldier.

Corey:

I think you're right. Yeah, I 100% think you're right, I think

Tanner:

so for those of you my only point with this before I let Cory continue is for those of you saying that's not the case, it is it happened in the comics. And he earned the title and came to terms with the title within himself.

Corey:

No, I 100% agree. I think Captain America is very much like a title. It's a symbol. It's it's like Batman. nobody bats an eye at the end of The Dark Knight Rises when Bruce Wayne leaves passes the Batcave on to Robin, John Blake. And it's a lot of people's headcanon that he continues to be the next Batman carries on the mantle. You know Batman Beyond one of the best stories of somebody else coming along and claiming the mantle exactly being this symbol for people to rally behind and it's so perfect of the character of Steve Rogers to understand the impact portance of, you know, like, there's, it's a new time it's a new America that people need to see somebody who represents themselves leading them.

Tanner:

Yes. And that's why the shield didn't get passed to Bucky.

Corey:

Yes, that and we also see that I mean, one of the first times we see Bucky in the show, you can't have a Russian Super Soldier assassin taking over the title of Captain America. He has too much red in his ledger to take. You have to take a little leaf from Black Widows book, but

Tanner:

I mean, he does he does. He is known as the Winter Soldier. I'm pretty sure it came out that all the things he did, right,

Corey:

the White Wolf? Yeah, pretty sure when Black Widow released all of the all of the hydrogen shield files at the end of CAP two. It's all out there.

Tanner:

It is all out there. Actually. You're right. Because in the show part of the condition of you being free, is you going to therapy,

Corey:

after all of the traumatic BS that he had been through? Is there a story someday where something happens to Sam Wilson and Bucky has to take up the shield and be a Captain America? Yes. But after he's done that work, like Sam says, put in the work, make the difference. And then you will earn it when the time comes.

Tanner:

The way they could write that story. And it could be really cool is Sam gets captured and no one knows where he is. All that's left is the shield captured. Yeah, all that's left is the shield and Bucky picks it up. But this is after time has passed and Bucky has been continuing to help fight the good fight for the people.

Corey:

This may be a bit tangential. So do you have anything more?

Tanner:

No, I just thought I just needed to say my piece on that.

Corey:

While we're talking about Captain America. I had a random thought while driving the other day. And now you're listening to the podcast. So you'll hear it to Captain America. I was thinking about how his story goes. Yep. He's on these uso tours. Like the very first mission that Captain America has is being on these like stages and shows presenting and being like this false version. He learns how to stand up straight, he learns how to speak to people. Yeah, he learns that. It's more of a show. It's more of an act until he gets to the war. And he learns like, oh, where's actually how it's like his second training like we see young scrawny Steve Rogers go through all of his, like, actual soldier training. And then we see him go through like acting training being a presence. And then once he's unfrozen and he has, you know, he's, he's battle hardened. When he comes back in Winter Soldier, and he's giving that speech at the end, like the price of freedom is high. Always has been, but it's a price I'm willing to pay. And Sam looks at him. And he's like, Did you write that down first, and you come up with that off the top of your head, it speaks to how Captain America is his cap. But he's also like, he's an actor. He's the he's the he's the big he's supposed to be the leader in command, your respect and your attention. And I think that's, I never really thought about it in those terms before and I feel like I just had to articulate that real quick

Tanner:

going off that point. You really need to watch season three with the boys because soldier boy is being what he is the boys equivalent to Captain America. You'll see when you get all the story, you'll be like, Oh my god, this is really he's a really well done and you'll Jensen Ackles plays I'm so well. Okay, yeah, I'm

Corey:

just I'm, I'm always wondering where the twist is, because they present these characters to you that look like they're one thing. Like, you totally see them as one thing and then you watch the show. And they're like, the total opposite. Well, yeah,

Tanner:

I mean, that's in the boys fashion. There's some good twists with him. There's some good. I mean, he is by no means a fucking saint. He's not Steve Rogers.

Corey:

I mean, even Steve Rogers had I love when he says that to Nick Fury when he's talking about, like, the good old days of war. And he's like, sometimes we did things that that we couldn't sleep with, but we did it so that people can be free. Yeah, basically, like the you know, you got to make compromises and war and it sounds like soldier boy is going to be one of those like, he's going to F shit up. There. You have. I have no idea. Yeah, you

Tanner:

know, Stuart like you. He's not as bad as Stormfront, like Stormfront was a fucking twat of a Nazi. At watse Yeah. Tweetsie Is that is that? Did we just make that a thing?

Corey:

I don't know. Urban Dictionary real quick.

Tanner:

I'm not gonna do that right now. But he's not on the level of Stormfront but Jesus Christ. Do you just go with that? So when you're watching the show, like

Corey:

I'm gonna have to get on that Amazon almost said Amazon plus Amazon Prime

Tanner:

Amazon.

Unknown:

Yeah, the boys

Tanner:

that's what I'm getting from this episode is watch the boys on Amazon Prime Now. Yeah, you should and read Shadow of the Sith. He's the reason why mm is part of the boys soldier boy is the reason why mm is on the boys crew was mm mother's milk Marvin from seasons one and two. Oh, mm mother's milk or Marvin.

Corey:

Oh, okay. It's been a minute since I've said he and soldier

Tanner:

boy is the entire reason why. Mmm hate suits. Okay. Oh, okay. Yeah. All right. Yeah, definitely get on it. It. It's just so good. The anything else we have going on this week?

Corey:

Um, we went and did that Comic Con Keane thing. That was fun. Yeah, it was cool. In terms of it was small. It was very small, very comic centered.

Tanner:

Yeah, not so much culture, pop culture centered. Like you get at a lot of the cons, but very comic centered a lot of good stuff. I had a couple of good finds while I was there. Like I've finally got the entire Heir to the Empire. comic series comics, all five of them, because I'd always seen them. And I was like, is it ever to the Empire is a Dark Empire. Dark Empire? I think Dark Empire? Wow. Go ahead and butcher me guys. I don't care.

Corey:

You got the full thing, which is pretty cool. You get over it, I saw that I was like, oh,

Tanner:

all five of them. Every time I've seen it, I can only find like one in three and then five, and I can't find any of the other ones. So I've never picked them up. But all five of them are there. So I haven't opened them yet. I don't know if I will, we'll find out. And it's one of those things. When I find old comics, do I really want to open them? Or read them? Or do I not want to open up and read them?

Corey:

I've, uh, I've gotten to the point where when I was moving, and I was looking through all my comments and trying to find like, okay, what are the valuable ones? I would just Google literally say like, Hey, Google, something the Amazing Spider Man number 301 or whatever. And it would read the entire synopsis and everything. So if you're ever looking at a comic, and you want to know what's going on in it, Google is so helpful without actually like opening it and reading it and being like, Oh, I just probably brought down this like 9.5 comic to a seven seven just by having it touch air for a second.

Tanner:

Yeah, just by staring at it. That energy coming out of my eyes has ruined this comic.

Corey:

I can't read single pack comics anymore. Like single issue comics. I can't do it. I like

Tanner:

to I like to collect them. And I like in that and I like to but it is easier to read a trade paperback. I will admit that. And I've read more trade paperbacks recently. Especially the one that's sitting right there on the couch with the Korea that Nottingham from Mad cave comics that was really good. was dark, gritty, a whole different take on the Robin Hood mythology than I've seen before. Really, really enjoyed that.

Corey:

I like the subtitle death and taxes.

Tanner:

Yes. And that's issues one through five it I went and looked and they're doing the next five issues right as we speak right now. So hopefully I'll be able to find the trade paperback for that soon. Smaller comic company. Nice. So I really like those finding like the trade paperbacks from the smaller comics companies.

Corey:

I'm telling you there's, there's a gentleman that I'm hoping to set up an interview with at some point, Rick Veatch who's worked on a couple of different, like indie comics and stuff that he's come up with himself. And there's some pretty good ones out there. I'm blanking on the name right now. But, you know, like smaller people just telling their own stories with a small crew of people that that want to make that same vision happen. Just some good obscure stuff out there.

Tanner:

Last bit of housekeeping guys, Cory Brooksie. And I have kind of scoured our collections, and we are getting ready to do a giveaway. And it's quite large. So it might not just be one giveaway, it might be several giveaways. Find us on Twitter at Dorkside nexus to learn more about that. Still kind of setting up the parameters for the giveaway and what we want to do but that'll be coming in the next couple of weeks. So there's that we've got we're setting up a discord and I'll let everyone know when that's out. But yeah, I mean, oh, and finally, fat Boston Fan Expo is happening on August

Corey:

12 12th 13th and 14th I believe, and

Tanner:

we will be attending that um some of us may be cosplaying. Some of us may not be still up in the air on that.

Corey:

There are a ton of so cool guests that are going to be there mostly Saturday seems to be the best

Tanner:

day. Yeah. And that's the day that we're going to be there. I think we're probably gonna have to get there and saying the early do you like waking up at five in the morning Cory because I think that's what we're gonna have to do

Corey:

if it means that I get to meet Kevin Smith. So Caetano,

Tanner:

and Danny Wan Kenobi and daddy Wan Kenobi, yes, the

Corey:

four hobbits will be there. And when I say the four hobbits I mean, like the actors for Frodo, Sam, Merry and Pippin.

Tanner:

Don't take that any other way. Guys, please. A bunch

Corey:

of other people. I'm so ready. I'll wake up. I won't even sleep. John Carlo

Tanner:

Esposito.

Corey:

Yes. Trying to think of any good Gideon lens but none popped him on.

Tanner:

It's hard. It's honestly hard because he plays such a great maniacal guy character anything anything and get in Gideon or Stan Edgar in the boys. He's very Oh, yeah,

Corey:

I forget he's in that too. Yeah, no, he's Lex Luthor and the Harley Quinn cartoon. He's just a bad guy. Like I love actors that are so good at being bad guys.

Tanner:

Yeah, he's very good at it. And not unlike the I'm going to just beat the EverLiving snot out of you. He's very like mustache twirly in a lot of ways. And I like it like he's like a modern mustache. twirly bad guy. Whenever he's acting. You're gonna say something? No,

Corey:

I was I was thinking of mustache were the bad guys. And it made me think of the other person I was thinking of that was on I hear voices. Jason Isaacs you got old Lucius Malfoy in the bad guy from the patriot. He's also the the original voice of the Grand Inquisitor and stuff he was on that podcast I was talking about as voice actors.

Tanner:

No, I if he was there, that'd be cool too. I take Lucious I'd like to meet Lucius Malfoy. I will say guys with daddy Wan Kenobi being there. If this man signs any part of my body, I am scheduling a standing tattoo appointment just to get the signature tattooed on me.

Corey:

I don't blame you. I would have actually signed one arm Ashley Eckstein, the voice of Ahsoka Tano is going to be there I have hearse on one arm and then have humans on the other be like I got my two

Tanner:

favorite Star Wars. Yeah, I mean I feel like if I called my tattoo artists and there's like five of us we have autographs you're you're doing um he'd be like What the fuck is wrong with you but okay,

Corey:

wrong with you people it's just a human beings autograph like why do you want that on you forever I don't have a valid reason right now but I'll pay you

Tanner:

oh guys we actually have a small debate that Corey and I had earlier what is the best Hello there

Corey:

hello there. Oh god. My instinct is to say the General Grievous one but you know when he drops down yeah on Gouda pow in Revenge of the Sith my first when you first asked me that when I got here I was like Lou there he says it's our to think I have to go with that one. It's very classic. It's the it's the first

Tanner:

it's classic. But I'm gonna go with the hello there at the end of the Kenobi series. Because in that scene, he delivers it very closely to how Alec Guinness delivers it in A New Hope while still maintaining the energy in which he delivered it to grievous

Corey:

I feel it's almost the exact same one from Revenge of the set like almost word for word and the smile that he gives Luke as he does it as like it's to this kid but then it's also like a little nod to the audience like I did the thing I said the thing Don't you love it?

Tanner:

We did love it

Corey:

I still love the Allegan as one just the slow like he turns to our to like

Tanner:

that's what I like the one from the Kenobi series is because the speech patterns a little bit slower getting closer to the Alec Guinness one. Not quite as like hello there. It's it's more of the Hello there. It's

Corey:

just settling in more to

Tanner:

this nice bridge between the two. But man, did we lose it when that happened? Oh yeah.

Corey:

That and then a couple seconds later when Qui Gon the guy on my shirt shows up. I'm wearing a Where did I get the enterprise comics? It's this beautiful Qui Gon Jinn animated style shirt

Tanner:

by the time he showed up. I mean, I know we already talked about us but by the time he showed up all of our energy was sucked out into the Hello there.

Corey:

Pretty much. Yeah, but that made it so much more like oh, it's like a cherry on top of the like amazing Sunday that you're already looking at like Master Qui Gon cadenza think you weren't counting.

Tanner:

Alright guys, I think that's gonna do it for this week. We should be back to our regular schedule. Well, programming coming up, we've got a few ideas of other content that we're going to do that I think everyone's going to have their own little thing that they're going to do on the show moving forward. Like, I think bruxism might be focusing on some gaming stuff. Corey, you said you wanted to do something about some old movies.

Corey:

I'm feeling nostalgic, I kind of want to go back and watch some older stuff and just be like, is this as good as we remember? Or is this better than we remember?

Tanner:

Or does it just suck?

Corey:

I don't know. I'm just I'm at this nostalgic phase in my life where I want to go back and watch all this stuff from childhood with new, you know, more grown up eyes and see what what I may have missed and what I still have yet to get.

Tanner:

It's like in one of our older episodes where we did the trailer for small soldiers. Yep, exactly. I have I have to go back and rewatch that. I have to see is this as good as I remember, because the trailer didn't paint it as good as I remember. It's not

Corey:

bad. But if you think about it, like nowadays, it's not too unbelievable that they would have like an evil toy company that not even evil but just like accidentally made all these robot and tech toys come to life. Like imagine drones flying on their own and like today's RC cars that like kick up dirt and shit.

Tanner:

They would it would be terrifying. absolutely horrifying. Yeah. Yeah, the little Porkins figure right behind you. Could you imagine if he came to life and started shouting at you?

Corey:

Not the scariest one but yeah, I'd be a little like duh. Okay, easy. They're Porkins

Tanner:

grabs a frickin knife and comes after you and I'm like they do in that movie.

Corey:

You got a can of x and a lighter, because that would end real quick.

Tanner:

You've got the Thor love and thunder figure behind you as well. Could you imagine if that came to life and they strapped the battery pack with him and he's shooting lightning.

Corey:

I imagine if that storm breaker were actually real. McCoy opens up the buy for us.

Tanner:

Opens that would be kind of lit actually.

Unknown:

Right? Terrifying.

Tanner:

As well on tick tock really quick. I think we keep this episode going every time we try to wrap it up.

Corey:

It's like the Return of the King. There's like nine different endings and none of them really solidify that it's over.

Tanner:

True. It's true. It's like Oh, it's over. And then it's like, oh, no, we have to go through the hobbits leaving.

Corey:

Oh my god. Yeah. And getting back and having a drink. And Sam was meeting his love. Yeah, yeah.

Tanner:

Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot. Alright guys, we're officially wrapping it up. Thanks for joining us this week. And as always, I'm Tanner and I'm Corey. Stay hydrated.

Corey:

Please stay hydrated. It's getting so hot out there. And we'll see you in the Nexus