Dorkside Nexus

This is Getting out of hand. Now there are three of them... Darth Brooksy has entered the chat.

May 31, 2022 Tanner Season 2 Episode 7
Dorkside Nexus
This is Getting out of hand. Now there are three of them... Darth Brooksy has entered the chat.
Show Notes Transcript

Corey and Tanner have a surprise this week... They have brought on a new member to the Dorkside Nexus team: Brooksy!

So sit back, relax and enjoy the conversation between 3 nerds who wish more than anything they were at Star wars Celebration but couldn't be.

Corey:

What is up everybody and welcome to another episode of the Dorkside nexus. My name is Cory in and we have a very special guest this week somebody that you will be hearing from a lot is Brooksie. I never know if I'm supposed to say the name if I should let you say the name. I don't know

Brooksie:

I mean if I feel like if I say the name it's it's weird coming out of my mouth. T hat's fair.

Corey:

So you know, maybe they'd like to hear how do you say how do you pronounce it? It could be?

Brooksie:

It's definitely Bootsy it could be Brooksie Brooks. I think our mutual friend Keanu. He has called me that like once and I was like, I don't know how I feel about that.

Tanner:

He's probably going with like, bro.

Brooksie:

Yeah, it was definitely bro.

Tanner:

It was definitely bro Ski.

Corey:

Yeah, but I we've been friends for many many years and you've been one of the one of the few people that I can really nerdy deep dive with. So I'm really excited.

Tanner:

Yeah, Cory just introduced me to Brooksie last week at when we were doing a session zero for a campaign in d&d that I'm doing. So and we hit it off, and I said, Cory, let's just bring him right on the podcast. He he's got the stuff as they say this stuff. But

Brooksie:

I definitely rolled in net 20 when it came to charisma.

Tanner:

Yes. ANat20 For sure.

Corey:

I get that joke now. I love that.

Brooksie:

See, now you are a super nerd.

Tanner:

Yes. Welcome. Welcome. No, but Brooks is not only a guest, we're bringing on the show full time ladies and gentlemen. So be ready to hear more from him moving forward.

Corey:

A new fixture. Assuming this goes well. No pressure. Yeah.

Tanner:

You're gonna feel a slight pressure 123 That's my finger.

Brooksie:

Even does the ccough that was perfect.

Corey:

I even turned my head if you notice. I did. I did see that. Alrighty, so we're just gonna get a feel for you know, what are the some of the things that you're into some of your nerdy likes? We don't really pay too much attention to nerdy dislikes. But I'm curious about those too. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. To start off, we're all huge Star Wars fans here. Oh, absolutely. extremely excited. We got celebration starting this week. We're gonna do an episode about that. But my question is, what's your favorite Star Wars movie?

Brooksie:

Well, I started with the original trilogy. And I absolutely loved watching that growing up my actually my dad was a huge Star Wars fan and got me into the the original trilogy. However, I really love episode three, I could watch that movie, probably countless amounts of times, and I still fall in love with it every time. Just the the amount of action. There's pretty much never really a dull moment throughout the entirety of the film. And I just love how Lucas sets it up for a new hope. And when they released rebels, as well as and before that Clone Wars. I really love how those two shows kind of are like setting up or like a big in between before for that episode and movie itself. So to answer your question, yes, it's definitely Episode Three Revenge of the Sith.

Tanner:

I think that's pretty much unanimous. All three of us.

Brooksie:

I think so. I think all three of us agree that Revenge of the Sith is probably our number on Star Wars film.

Corey:

Personal favorite. Yeah,

Tanner:

Yeah, same.

Corey:

I'd lean a little bit towards Empire Strikes Back, but that's only because it had a huge impact on me when I was a kid. I mean, going out into the snow and playing against, you know, imaginary ATA tees.

Brooksie:

I definitely agree with that, like we had our roads plowed. And we'd have like this big, almost like a big snow mound in our driveway. So my sister and I would dig these holes and we'd have like a little network of holes, dug into the mound, the snow mound and we'd have like we'd go into the woods and dig out like a bunch of sticks and my sister and I would aim towards the driveway. Be like oh, we got it at at covenant hot, you know, get down cover fire. We lost format. And we just like throw snowballs and we'd like build another small smaller snow mound and that we like dive into the It's like little cave that we dug out on the western side of the snow mound and we'd like hunker down we like covering fire we were taken II we need back up set in general Skywalker, we'd eat back up just just things like that, like me and my sister would do because she she didn't really like watching the films, but she did watch the film, so she knew specifically what was going on.

Corey:

That's great. Those childhood memories. Oh, I one of the things that Star Wars really does well, is it it's something that connects a whole group of people from, you know, parents to children to within the children themselves.

Brooksie:

Yeah. And particularly a, I met you and then in fourth grade, I met a good friend of mine, Isaac, bro. And he's been somebody like, I can ask, like, really good questions, because he's like, I swear, he's like a Star Wars wizard. You'd ask him a question and be like, Oh, it was a, you know? He'll just come with the answer. Like right away. I'm like, Wow, this guy's like super good. And then Isaac and I hit it off right away. And from then on, it was essentially from then on, essentially, Isaac and I grew closer through just by bonding about Star Wars and other things as well. And then you and I met in middle school, and I would say it was definitely Star Wars that definitely drew us together as well as Marvel. I know at the time you were like a hardcore DC fan specifically towards Batman.

Tanner:

I mean, he's still in Oh, yeah, no,

Brooksie:

but when Yes, true

Corey:

middle school me was hardcore into Batman that was like era was coming out. All those shows were really starting to pick up

Brooksie:

is especially considering how when arrow first came out, and then season two was announced and still to this day. Slade is still my favorite DC villain. Yes, just just how he is and the actor who betrayed him. I was like, wow, this is really well done. Good job. Whoever wrote this, like CW guys are pulling some serious strings like this is awesome. Oh, no,

Tanner:

season two was was absolutely fantastic. Aveiro. But like I said, I think after season three is where I started to lose it with Arab. That's really when for me it was just like, I can't really watch much more of this.

Corey:

I don't blame you. And you know what I think it was that's when they started to split off and have like two shows three shows five shows. And it's basically the same pool of writers.

Tanner:

Yeah, so there's only so much you can do there really is

Corey:

exactly like Flash Season One a flash I think is the best season of superhero television. I agree with that. Up until midnight.

Tanner:

Yeah, no,

Brooksie:

you can't really be midnight.

Tanner:

Up until midnight. Yeah, there that was definitely peak superhero television, pacing, storytelling, everything about it was perfect at that point.

Corey:

I don't think so. While we're on DC, what's your favorite DC movie? That's a tough thing. Not to put you on the spot but

Brooksie:

no Yes or No? I would definitely have to say man a steal. i Before that, I had not known Henry Cavill as an actor you know, I assume he probably did a lot of UK TV and movies as well. So watching him and mana steel, and then later finding out he's from the UK was just like, wow, this guy does a really good job as a kettlebell or Superman. And just just how we you know, how he portrays himself as our favorite Smallville slash metropolis. Kryptonian was just like, this is really really good. Don't get me wrong. I love bale playing as Bruce Wayne Batman and the Dark Knight trilogy, but I I would say mana steel is definitely probably one of my favorites.

Tanner:

I mean, that's fair. That's fair. I'll be honest, I've never seen mana steel.

Brooksie:

I highly recommend you watch it. Yeah.

Tanner:

I as much as I love Henry Cavill I have not seen Man of Steel. I look at him as Geralt now and and that's all he will ever be. I'm just sitting here fanning myself as I think about that. Might get into

Brooksie:

it he Yeah, he definitely does a very good journal. I've read a little bit of the books I play a little bit of the games. My roommate Ian definitely swears that The Witcher is probably one of the best series ever. And I'm like, Well, I'm trying to work on that. I'm trying to finish Dark Souls one right now so well, maybe I'll play it after I finish that.

Tanner:

I could not get into the Souls game. I don't like being absolutely butchered every second. I'm playing Yeah,

Brooksie:

my only response to that is you just got to get good.

Tanner:

Shots fired.

Brooksie:

Yeah, yeah, that's the typical mean base.

Tanner:

And ladies and gentlemen, this has been the first and last time you have heard from Booksy.

Corey:

You guys didn't even get into Knights of the Old Republic yet.

Tanner:

Oh, there's still time for that. That's fair.

Corey:

Yeah, so we were on Star Wars for a second that just reminded me, who's your favorite Star Wars character out of the whole pantheon?

Brooksie:

Now, is it specifically are you asking like a non force user and a Force user specifically? Or are you just like, you have to pick like one?

Tanner:

I say one, okay. Um,

Brooksie:

after playing Knights of the Old Republic a few times, I would have to say indefinitely Darth Nihilus. He's probably one of my favorite Sith Lords of all time,

Tanner:

honestly, for how much they set him up. I was really disappointed with the payoff in that game. Like it like they set him up so well, especially with his apprentice visit is is that how we said at visits Mar? Vismara? Yeah, yeah, no, I, there's so much we're set up only to for it to be me pay off with that one. If they ever

Brooksie:

do, like an expansion. For his story, I would pay big amounts of money just to just to see that like a show or even his own game or something in regards to like, expanding upon his story about what happened after the Mass Shadow Generator that was released by Revan. And Malik, and just his, his eventual rise as the Lord of hunger, and just how, like even Darth Korea and sigh on thought that his power was unmatched. And just the fact that he was what I call a living Deathstar. He would just walk to force sensitive worlds or worlds that were rich in the Force. He would just be in space on his ship, and he could just consume the world of his of its force and just empower himself. He literally just disintegrated himself into and his spirit attached itself to his armor. So he was literally keeping himself alive through sheer force of force of will and because he fed on the living force,

Tanner:

I will have to say of Knights of the Old Republic to I will prefer it to Knights of the Old Republic one even though the game was never finished.

Brooksie:

Yeah, I agree. Kotor two was definitely a lot more expanded. I agree, though, it definitely should have been completed before they released it. In my opinion, I think that if they just just waited like they are a lot of game studios are doing now. It definitely would have been a lot like we got we would have gotten a lot more of a story based upon the Triumph Vin and like the more on the Sith Lords themselves.

Tanner:

Yeah. The game had the mechanics I felt were so much better than in Kotor one even though yes, they were the same mechanics they were more fleshed out the force abilities were better you had specializations within your set class as well, which I liked. Like there was the sith lord or Jedi Master. There was the SIF Marauder Marauder versus Jedi Battle Master like I liked having that aspect of it. That was cool. You got extra abilities. They made it so battle meditation was actually ability you could have instead of just having Bastila have that ability and stuff like that. It was very much a better game. I also liked how much influence you truly had over your party in that game. Being able to take people who were more sensitive as adults and be like you are for sensitive I can train you as a Jedi and train them or a Sith depending on what your your influence was with them. You can train them as your apprentices basically. Course over there making a face.

Corey:

Now I was checking out what you guys talked about that? No, it seems like that was a period in time where Star Wars storytelling really existed in the games. You really got to play the stories that they wanted you to to get into.

Brooksie:

Yeah, it I definitely agree with that. Because after recently finishing the Bane trilogy, and you know I haven't played Kotor in a long time, but just remembering like others battle meditation You know, there's there's certain things that is mentioned in the bein trilogy that they used in Kotor. That is like, okay, they're definitely utilizing a lot of lore from Kotor itself and putting it into the storytelling that they have now. And it's it's great that they're actually like taking stuff from Legends and putting it into canon. I know recently, they just confirmed that Mace Windu has his foreseeability shatter point shattered point yet? Yep. And for a while, he didn't have that when Disney bought, got the rights to Star Wars. They took it away. But recently, they were like, You know what, we're just gonna give it back to him. It's, it's what it's these abilities that make a Force user unique. Essentially, you know, we have Quinlan Vos, Who is him and Ray as well as Cal cast. Thank you. They all have the ability of force touch where psychometry Thank you. Where, you know, you can see the history based upon, you know, an object that they touch. And, you know, Ray and Kylo, or Ben having the dyad, which, I don't really remember that. I don't really remember hearing that in any of the expanded universe stuff recently that I've read, but I'm hoping to see that it's mentioned again, because I don't think it's really touched on

Tanner:

it was touched on in the novelization of rise of Skywalker more than anything. And it was a cool concept that was introduced at that I think they could do more with like, okay, the rule of two's always existed since Darth Bane and that existed because we could never accomplish truly finding a force a dyad in the force to be our apprentice.

Brooksie:

I know from reading that Plagueis Darth Plagueis wanted a dyad with his apprentice Darth Sidious at some point they in during cities, his training and apprenticeship they tried really hard which then the force bounce back and then hence Anakin was born through the force through which me Oh, my

Tanner:

God is Jesus Christ.

Brooksie:

Basically. One he was a boss at a straw that said not join them.

Tanner:

But our Father who aren't Sorry, wrong God cast

Corey:

the Father on mortis. It's true and the Sun and the Sun our favorite sandwich word.

Tanner:

Yeah, that's your favorite sandwich. We're,

Corey:

well no, my favorite sandwich Where's is Starkiller?

Brooksie:

Yeah, you can't go wrong with Galen Merritt can't

Corey:

go wrong.

Tanner:

I know. But that's that's a story that I don't think will ever make it into canon. Yeah, there's no feasible way at this point that star killer becomes canon.

Corey:

The closest thing they could possibly do is have a character named Galen Marek, who is one of the the Inquisitors Yeah, I could say that Vader trained to hunt Jedi that's the closest I think we can get

Brooksie:

there was on I did see it briefly on Reddit Star Wars this page it's a really cool concept are of Amin in the rebel series they have like the wall. But what was going on in the rebel series is that they have the painted wall that they were excavating. I can't remember specifically what world it was. Thank you. They adore the mural of the Father, the daughter and the son but someone had a an edit of instead, the father, it was one half Anakin one half Vader, the daughter was represented by Ahsoka and then the son was represented by Star Killer, Galen Marek. Oh, and I almost sent it to Corey. And I was like to see this actually, I will. I will look after we're done recording and I will definitely send it to you both because it's probably one of my favorite art pieces that I've seen out there. It's a combination of legends and cannon stories that I'm just like, that's really cool. Whoever whoever created this, you definitely get a gold star for the day.

Corey:

And I'd love to symmetry that it's Vader, Anakin Vader you know the Father we see him taking on the father's role in that the Mortis arc, and then Ahsoka being the representative of the light. Again, honestly,

Tanner:

I haven't chills thinking about this, like literal fucking chills like wow.

Corey:

But both, both of them trained by an Anakin or evader. They're the perfect

Tanner:

it's a true representation of his Legends apprentice and his cannon apprentice,

Corey:

both who fight with a reverse grip sabers

Brooksie:

What's what's great too is that they each have their perspective sabers. So socas is white aimed towards the on the photo towards the left and then star killers is read aimed towards the right. And just just the symmetry of it is just it's awesome like whoever like again the artists have this is a perfect rendition of what Star Wars makes up like maybe Yeah, some people prefer the cannon over legends and vice versa but it's just things like that that bring a good uniformity to the to the universe as a whole. Oh, yeah.

Corey:

I love that going back to them pulling stuff from the legends in Thrawn. How about Thrawn? Anybody?

Tanner:

Well, hold on. So I was just on Twitter. And it's suppose it that the acolyte is going to bring in things that were from Legends and make them can and again, that another podcast that I that I follow on Twitter, shared it and I was like, This is dope, please bring some stuff and of course, as clickbait they have a mock up of revenue in front of it, but like because it's an it's a legitimate article like from I think IGN or something like that, where they're like, yeah, some of this stuff will become canon again, and I hope to god its revenue they if they take anything from, don't you give me that face over there? Do not get me. You bite your goddamn tongue.

Corey:

I'm just saying that it seems like did I find it? Yeah, that's

Brooksie:

definitely the one that you pulled up on your computer. Awesome.

Corey:

I'm gonna show that in a second. But um what were you just saying? Revenue

Brooksie:

he was he was talking about revenue, I will be at peace. I will be at peace

Corey:

supposedly.

Brooksie:

Sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt you. I apologize. But essentially, myself. And my friend Isaac, bro. both agree that we like and a lot of people are really hoping that Keanu Reeves gets the role as reven Yes, yes. Yes. How similar they look. It's mind boggling. And he's even i A while back even toyed with the idea of being added in as Robin. I mean, the guy's truly breathtaking. I mean, he would be breathtakingly handsome to play is where heaven?

Tanner:

No, you're breathtaking. No, you are?

Corey:

No, but I definitely have heard the rumors of him wanting to play a reverend, and give me some Keanu and Star Wars. I'll take that all day.

Tanner:

Keanu is a phenomenal actor. I mean, just the stories of him prepping for John Wick. Sorry for cutting out there. The dog barged into the studio and announced now but Keanu would be a phenomenal choice. Just his prep for John Wick. That roll I mean, he trained very hard to be as realistic as he possibly can in that role. Why does Korea have a face

Corey:

Darth wick? Are you kidding me? That would be one of the cool. People have been complaining about Star Wars fight scenes have not really been what they were in Revenge of the Sith for a while. Do you give Kiana a lightsaber or two and have him like he'll train? I don't mean he's already a martial arts master.

Brooksie:

Yeah, he's he's pretty adept in martial arts, but I could see him definitely doing some more training again. And he could definitely play the role very well. And I mean, I could even I could even see him. Like, going back to what you said about, you know, lightsaber combat. Just the fight scene alone between Ahsoka and Maul, how they brought back Ray Park to do his the same movements that he used in Phantom Menace.

Tanner:

So I have to go in on this one, because it taught it's more so about the lightsaber forms and like reverends preferred form that he used. So as we know, there are seven forms of lightsaber combat cheat show. I bless you. Thank you. That's form one that you're taught as a young lady and patwon that and that was kyphosis preferred form, there's form to Bokashi, which is how do Count Dooku fights very fencing based? There's form three CEREC, which is how Obi Wan's preferred style after the fight with Darth Maul, because it's very defensive and conserves your energy and things like that. There's form for itaru and we've seen several practitioners of this it's qui guns one, Yoda is one and Ahsoka is another one. And it's very agile, acrobatic and relies heavily on augmenting your physical abilities with the force to move quicker and as very tight blade work. And then there's form five which is there's two variants of which is Shi n, which is primarily used for Blaster Bolt deflection. And unlike Obi Wan's form where it deflects the bolts away, she and focuses on using the bolts as a counter attack and blast in sending them back. And then there's the gems. So variant which is for lightsaber lightsaber combat, and Anakin is a master of gems So, and she n so, which is how he beats Count Dooku. So handily on in Revenge of the Sith, because the fencing style versus a style that's involves a lot of strength doesn't work out so well, is it's all counter attacks coming back at them. And then there's form six, which is Neiman, also known as the moderation form, which it takes a little bit of all five of the previous forms and mixes them together. And it does very well with using force abilities and while in combat and things like that. And then there's form seven, which is Julio, where it very aggressive form, very few Jedi use it mostly used by the Sith, Darth Maul is the perfect example. And Sidious is the perfect example. very taxing, and aggressive form. And then Mace Windu also uses form seven, but he uses a variant of it called a pod, the and the variant basically takes all the aggressiveness of that form and just channels it in and out of you into the other person. And reven fights with Newmont. And that's why I'd be really excited to see Kiana doing it because Reverend is very much a master of the form. Plus he's also a master force user. So seeing that translated onto the screen of lightsaber combat and and using foreseeability seamlessly together would be so cool, because we haven't had that yet. It's mostly saber to saber then they stop and they cat for like a forest battle.

Corey:

We get it every now and again in the animation, but in the live action now, they do a little and rise of Skywalker. But again, it's mostly just like one forcement I'm going to stop the saber blade for a second or use like a jump in the middle of the fight. I want to see actual, like real saber fights.

Tanner:

Yeah, I want to see some. I mean, you can sit there and say that maybe Anakin and Obi Wan used it against each other when they're trying to force push each other in Revenge of the Sith. You could say that because that was kind of a seamless application of of still having the blades out and going for it. But also it does need to be noted that in Attack of the Clones all masters a form six died on Geonosis because it it's not the best form being when you're surrounded by droids like that blast doubles. Well, it's because it's not a form that specializes in any one thing.

Brooksie:

Well, what about the dinosaur looking master? They got shot by Jango Fett?

Corey:

Oh, yeah, I

Tanner:

don't know. He got.

Brooksie:

I mean, he got blasted like right away.

Tanner:

Yeah, I mean, like, Where the heck did they find this guy

Corey:

here? Well, I mean, he had the right idea, though. He's just like, hey, they're all up there watching. We should probably go take out the leader guys. And of course, Django was a little quick on the draw. I love that Gun Flip. He does. And that's it. Yeah, it's

Tanner:

pretty cool. You work on that all the time. Classic gunslinger. Oh, yeah,

Corey:

I'm getting there. I'm gonna be like

Brooksie:

Arthur Morgan over here.

Tanner:

Yes. That is good. Maybe he never played Red Dead. Redemption two. Can't believe that. No, no. Shame on

Brooksie:

you. It was wrong, would you boy, yeah, we

Corey:

don't have time to get into all that.

Tanner:

I mean, he's not gonna die of tuberculosis, hopefully so. Hopefully not. That's yeah, so there's that. But but let's move away from Star Wars now. And hop right into the MCU favorite MCU movie?

Brooksie:

Um That's definitely a tough question. Because most of the MCU movies from Ironman one all the way up to endgame I've absolutely love except for there's only one movie where I watched it. And I was like, I'm only going to watch this once. Maybe a second time just to say I've watched all the movies all the way through and that my least favorite I will say it would be Captain Marvel.

Tanner:

Fair. So fair. I'm sorry that but it doesn't feel like an MCU movie. It doesn't it feels like a very It feels like a Fantastic Four ask superhero movie. Yep, I agree. Of course he's offended.

Corey:

You like it more than dark world? Yeah, or less than dark world?

Brooksie:

I like it less than dark world.

Tanner:

Oh, okay. I wouldn't go that far but it's not

Corey:

a horrible film. It's not Loki is actually I think one of the best parts of Dark World. Oh, absolutely. And and He goes in the dark world

Brooksie:

is probably second or last, in my opinion. I mean, four is probably my favorite MCU character, you know, in general, favorite Avenger? Like to answer that question, but to be honest, I would have to say, probably Civil War would have to be my favorite. It's, I say that, because you have nearly every Avenger with the exceptions of Hulk and Thor, and they're doing their own thing and Ragnarok

Tanner:

Hold on. Going back to when that movie was coming out. I think one of my favorite things was when it dropped and Chris Hemsworth is sitting there in like his home gym doing pull ups. And he's like, it does the whole You didn't invite the strongest Avengers thing. And he's like, what, maybe I'm not worthy. Let's find out if I am with and he does, like stops mid pull up and he just like has and calls me all near to him. And he's like, still, where are they? And that ends the video. One of the best things that Chris Hemsworth has done with that.

Brooksie:

I did see that commercial and I was like, I like I like that. That's really cool.

Tanner:

Now, how big of a fan are you of Ragnarok?

Brooksie:

I definitely liked Ragnarok that's,

Tanner:

that's my favorite.

Brooksie:

A lot of people gave it a bad rap. And because who

Tanner:

are these people? I must speak with them because they are very wrong.

Brooksie:

I would say a lot of the people on the internet, but to be fair, it's the internet you totally fail

Tanner:

as I roll my eyes like Tony Stark.

Brooksie:

But essentially, I would say Civil War because it's my favorite MCU film. You have almost all the Avengers including Chawla, who is probably my second favorite Avenger and hero

Tanner:

rip Chadwick Boseman.

Brooksie:

Absolutely, he was, like, kudos to that man for during the filming while undergoing like, just the battering of dealing with cancer.

Tanner:

Absolutely. Oh my god. Oh my god,

Brooksie:

and just just seeing clips of him. Like, I want to say passing out or nearly passing out. And the actor who plays vision, his name is escaping me right now. Paul Bettany, Thank you, Paul Bettany, like leans over and sees Chadwick kind of nodding off. And he's like, are you okay? And Jadwiga just a little tired. And I'm just seeing that after after he passed. And I'm just like, man, that's just the amount of just the struggle that that guy had to go through is just astounding, but kudos to him for pulling through. And he just the portrayal that he does have to chala Black Panther is was phenomenal, especially in the Black Panther film. And just how just how, like, it almost seems like Age of Ultron kind of sets up the boundaries of that fight. That Tony's mistake, creating Ultron and nearly destroying the world through all trans plan, I should say to use a Golia as almost like a meteoric strike on the planet. And but at the same time, he did kind of warn everyone about not only thin Oh, spa Juana as well, you know that she would eventually turn. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes.

Corey:

All foreshadow. I think Age of Ultron really does a it does a good job. And then it also focuses too much on the job of laying the groundwork for the rest. Yes,

Tanner:

yes. I, to be honest, the first time when you saw age Voltron in theaters I truly felt it was like okay, that was good, but it was kind of underwhelming and then it's not until after the fact when you see the other projects and everything else they have planned and what's come out since you're like oh, that was very important. Everything there was insanely important and it ties all the way in into multiverse of madness. Madness recently. With the with the old Tron centuries.

Brooksie:

Yeah, they were Ultron centuries created. From it, I believe. Reed Richards. Yeah. Which

Tanner:

is why it worked. It worked. Really.

Brooksie:

I mean, you can't you can't go wrong with Reed Richards without a man who created the Nullifier which was used to I, I want to say scare Galactus away in the comics.

Tanner:

What were you gonna say, Cory? Well,

Corey:

I was gonna say, So Wanda has kids in that universe that had Reed Richards and all of that. There's no Tony Stark. We assume Ultron worked fine. There is no vision. There is no vision. That's Why that one does, like peacefully just kind of live in her own life with her kids.

Tanner:

So who does she have kids with? Makes you wonder?

Brooksie:

It's probably my best guess is and this is basically because multiverse theory in its very strange. I assume it was probably like, Vision human look like like a pretty much a Paul Bettany looking guy that probably passed away from medical conflict or another Yeah. And she's like, Well, I still have my powers. I have my kids I have to take care of my kids all is you know, it. It's unfortunate, but I'll do what I can to keep my kids.

Tanner:

I'm going to stick on the multiverse of madness thing because I just saw a clip the clip of Mr. Xavier losing his life. I didn't know this until I saw it slow down. His neck doesn't get snapped in half. It gets ripped in half. His face gets ripped apart.

Brooksie:

Oh, goodness. Yes. It's probably a lot more brutal. Yeah,

Tanner:

yeah. Very. Yeah. Like I just saw it today before you guys got here. It's literally her ripping his face into.

Corey:

Okay, yeah, it looked very visceral. And in the movie, and in so fast.

Tanner:

They end how they did that on purpose. They were like, Ooh, we got to speed that up. speed that up, speed that up.

Brooksie:

But it's yeah, that movie definitely had some definitely had some dark moments. So you know,

Corey:

I'm just remembering being in the showing with with Brooksie here. And Professor X rolls into the cartoon. Yeah, everybody's screaming like, yeah, just from the side. It's from the 80s cartoon. Yeah, I enthused

Brooksie:

I, I watched that show as a kid growing up every Saturday right before I like, especially during the summer before I'd go down down the road to go to like the rec room with other kids and stuff outside. But yeah, I would watch that like religiously as a kid as well as other shows. And I loved watching it. And just seeing him there. I was like, That's so awesome. That's incredible how they look just the way it looked exactly like it did from the cartoon. I admit I was a little overexcited, especially since the fact that I had heard as you know, going back to this, I had heard that John Krasinski was confirmed to play as Reed Richards. I was like, oh my god, I really hope that this is true. And then just the, just the energy of him teleporting in, I was like, Oh, yes,

Corey:

I'm pretty sure I did a screech.

Tanner:

I did. I definitely didn't when I went to my showing of it. But did you guys notice that that's the same tech that the TVA uses to get around the timeline.

Brooksie:

Cory did touch base on this after your guys's mom episode.

Tanner:

One about mommy issues the mommy issues.

Brooksie:

So basically, they're in one of the comic series. There is a I understand that I and I think this is accurate. Reed Richards is a descendant of King his king. I mean, he's from the 41st century and he

Tanner:

thinks it King is a descendant of Reed Richards is what you mean. That's what I meant. Yeah, excuse me. No, that's and I think they said that in Loki I think they hinted on that.

Brooksie:

I didn't need to rewatch i It's

Tanner:

been so long. I can't remember because I probably won't rewatch that to be honest. Because the season one was a little slow for me. I've talked about this with Cory. But going back to Thor being your favorite character. You saw the new trailer. I did. Cory Cory is not gonna go to the

Corey:

bathroom. Only because I think I'm gonna go into these Marvel films watching as little as I can beforehand. Now,

Tanner:

I see I agree with that. I do agree with that. The only reason I was excited to watch more than the teaser trailer on this was because it's a taiko ytt film. Okay, that's really really what it comes down to. And I think my absolute favorite part was just you flick to Han Yeah, so now we've got naked Thor and naked Loki.

Brooksie:

I do want to go back on that scene where Zeus flicked off his armor, or I should say Russell Crowe. If you watch the trailer, briefly, it's a very quick snippet. There is a tattoo on Thor's back of Loki his helmet, and I thought that was because in Age of Ultron after the dark world happened, Thor took Loki his hair and when he braided it, he used Loki his hair on almost like a patwon Style braid. And in this film because I mean he, he loves Loki very much he has this giant tattoo of of his helmet on his back. And I think other helmets representing the different members of Thor's team that was killed by hella in Ragnarok

Corey:

they never really touched on

Tanner:

now. Now they don't know I mean they don't have a chance to but they don't they don't touch on that what I find okay, I'm losing my train of thought. No, you're good going back to the trailer. If you watch it you can see how many things are truly cut together different costumes together to into like scenes that they're trying to make fit and whatnot. So I think the trailer is another very much Hey, you see this but we're really doing this thing with Marvel.

Brooksie:

You going back to you Cory though, I definitely recommend that you watch the film, just how bale portrays Gore is,

Tanner:

ya know, really

Brooksie:

good. Like, I just watched the trailer. Just just once. I, I know you're trying to go in blind, but

Tanner:

you need to understand how good this portrayal of Gore is probably going to be because Bale is a phenomenal actor. So I have no doubt that it's not going to that it's going to be amazing.

Corey:

I've seen some images. I'm just going to wait and see it.

Tanner:

Okay, that's fine. That's fair.

Brooksie:

That's fine, essentially, because we're talking about a being who in the comics created the symbiotes. So

Corey:

I did here there's a connection to potential

Brooksie:

I'm kind of hoping that we did see at the end of not no way home, wasn't it? Yeah. Was that we did see the very, very small pea sized Symbio maybe we could see something like that again. I don't know. We'll we'll it's something to speculate on by

Tanner:

I'm going to just go out there and say because I don't want to dive too too far into this movie. Trailer. It's my most anticipated Marvel movies since Infinity War maybe? Really? Yeah, even I like I understand the hype runaway home, but with Tycho ytt at the helm of another Thor film, I have the highest of hopes and what we saw on Ragnarok turning all the all the other math stories of Thor that we had in the MCU around. I'm ecstatic. I wasn't super excited when Ragnarok came out because it was just so because after the first two Thor movies, I was just like, really? And then I saw it in theaters. And it was the best decision I ever made. Movie wise. And you know, yeah, I know Cory It's the one you didn't send.

Corey:

It's literally like the one I didn't go to see because I was like, I was so excited for the dark world. And then I got very let down Yeah, I was like you know what, I can skip this time I

Tanner:

thought about last Jedi that's for another conversation.

Corey:

much anger I've said to you.

Brooksie:

But going back to what you guys had asked me earlier about the Civil War being my favorite movie. I particularly like how Kevin and his team are taking a lot from the from the comics themselves. You had mentioned it when we had left the mom showing that even in no way home it seems like and Professor Xavier did it as well. When Peter has his spider sense and almost has like the exact like wavelength and wellness Xavier puts his you know his hands on his temple it has like the wave going out like from the cartoon and from the comics. I do love the fact that in Civil War when tap and Iron Man are fighting one on one there is you know in the Civil War comic from like the late or excuse me the late 2000s early 2010s There Ironman man and Steve are doing the exact same thing with the shield and Iron Man hitting the other end of the shield trying to and there's like that big spark it almost like slows down. I was like that right there. That is perfect. I just taking from the comics.

Tanner:

I've said this multiple times. I think Kevin Feige is day to day is he just sits there and sun someone down to the archives and brings up boxes of comics and he just reads comics all day just to and then he just takes the ones like that's a good storyline. Those are good. That's a good illustration of it there. That's a good character arc and he just has different boxes in his office of like, alright, we're out of this movie coming out. I need you writers to read these books.

Brooksie:

I agree with that. And I Definitely see him doing. I'm kind of hoping with Guardians of the Galaxy three, maybe they'll touch base because they hinted it at the end of volume two. I'm hoping they touch base on Adam Warlock.

Tanner:

Yes. Yeah, he's Yes,

Corey:

he's been cast. Who was?

Tanner:

Who was it?

Corey:

The little kid? The younger boy from where the Millers? If

Tanner:

yes, yes, absolutely. And I could see that I actually could see that I have you because he was in Netflix's interactive special Bandersnatch. And he was phenomenal in that like that if you've not done that, or Ari and I have done it. We haven't finished it because it's one of those things if you make the wrong choices, you go right back and it's very confusing, but it's cool. He was very good in that so I would be very excited for him as Adam more luck. All right, you almost as much as I'd be excited about Zac Efron is Johnny Storm.

Brooksie:

Yeah, I did see an article today that that seems like it's gonna be a 90% chance of happening.

Tanner:

Oh, yeah, yeah, F Ron's a big Marvel fan. He said that and he's like, if the right roll comes along, I'll take it. I'm literally like, okay, neighbors and Baywatch kind of he can make those characters working to draw storm.

Brooksie:

I agree.

Corey:

I can see him as a Johnny Storm. Hockey and you know, hot shit.

Tanner:

Yeah. I also could see Taron Egerton playing it as well.

Brooksie:

I could see that. Yeah, yeah, he AgZ definitely did a I mean, that was his I love those movies

Tanner:

and things. Wow, I haven't seen that. Have you seen the new one yet? Haven't seen this man, man. No, I didn't. I need to watch it out when I I know he's not in it. But like, I love the way they do those movies. So I'm all about it. The first

Corey:

one I think is absolutely perfect. The second one I have a couple issues with Yeah, absolutely.

Tanner:

Because they they saw what it's like every movie. Okay, we got away with that. What else can we get away with in this rate? I

Brooksie:

think I think the second one Corey doesn't really like it because they kill off his favorite character and Star Wars. Oh, yes. They

Tanner:

kill off Leandro. Yeah,

Brooksie:

they kill off Pedro school.

Tanner:

I think the best part is John in that movie. Yes. Oh

Corey:

my god. That was awesome. I

Tanner:

love the part where he's like, when he looks at him and goes, Can I get tickets to your next show? And he's like, Yeah, and you could take the back door. I was like, Oh my god. Oh my

Brooksie:

god. Yeah, he definitely has a lot of moments like the Elton is so funny.

Tanner:

Now hold. I think the second one is a funnier movie. I just think it's a more almost too extreme. If that makes sense.

Corey:

I can hear that. Yeah, yeah, I

Brooksie:

agree with that as well. It. I've seen both of those films once and just just the fact that I mean, even after film after it came out, like even Seth did it on Family Guy. Just the just the whole Freebird the cafeteria fight. How like every time someone plays Freebird now by Leonard Skinner is just like, I guess everyone's getting to a big ol Brawl though.

Tanner:

It was it was really good. I think honestly, what? I'm watching the first one, and it's with someone who's no longer in my life. I'm watching it with them. And Samuel L. Jackson comes in to talk to Mark Hamill and Samuel Jackson's kind of fucking list a bad guy with a list though. Like, as soon as I heard that, I was like, Oh, I'm good. And he's afraid of blood. Okay, what are my in store for?

Brooksie:

Just Just the fact that his assistant in the movie is like, oh, I should go and take a look at this. He's like, Nope, I'm good. I can't deal with blood right now. And I'm just like, oh, man, he it almost sounded like he was trying really hard to pull on Mike Tyson. Yeah, I'm like, Yeah, I'm like, oh, man, is he? I feel like he for like a day, maybe two days he sat with Mike Tyson and was like, amen. Amen. Can I do your Can I do this? Oh, absolutely. You know, just don't make fun of my cauliflower ear and don't do what they did a hangover and get a tattoo of my faith that

Corey:

the cast in those movies it

Tanner:

honestly honestly phenomenal. They like I cannot believe the star power in them at all. Like, there's no reason why they should have had that much star power. I mean, the first

Corey:

one has Luke Skywalker and Mace Windu in it. Yes, exactly. Yeah, you can't you can't beat the second one. Channing Tatum, Halle Berry.

Tanner:

Pedro Pascal. Who's the leader of the What the heck are they? The whiskey makers in

Corey:

the statesman, statesman? Yes. Oh. Oh, I got Jeff Bridges.

Tanner:

Yes. Thank you. Now he's in it. It was just such a big big cast.

Corey:

Good and based off a comic book. Exactly. It's very much in our niche

Tanner:

very off our niche though. Did you guys watch Rocket Man where Egerton plays Elton John.

Corey:

Not yet, which I think is

Brooksie:

I heard it's Pretty

Tanner:

good. Okay, so I have seen Rocket Man I've seen Bohemian Rhapsody. And I've seen the dirt. I think of those three. And this is going to be controversial. Bohemian Rhapsody has to fall at the lowest slot because of how many liberties they took. And like for the movie like it's yes, it tells the story of Freddie Mercury, but it took more liberties screwed with the timeline of his life a little bit more, but things that didn't necessarily happen into it. And yeah, it does culminate with the big show at Wembley, but a lot of the stuff that really happened in his life didn't happen till after that, like his AIDS diagnosis and all that stuff. They just played it up that way, because you have to film the dirt, focusing on Motley Crue, absolutely fucking phenomenal movie, because it's based off of their book that they wrote. And it's pretty true to the book in a lot of ways, obviously, it essentially station alized and it's also directed by Jeff Tremaine. Who did jackass. That's the director of it

Brooksie:

interesting.

Tanner:

I did not know that. Yeah, and MGK is a phenomenal Tommy Lee, absolutely phenomenal actor in that film. It's just a great movie. And also another point with that movie is it highlights the depths in disparity of what a heroin addiction truly is, with Nicky six and him getting clean. It's a phenomenal biopic, and then Elton John's Rocket Man is number one, because again, it is a it's of the scale that Bohemian Rhapsody is but it truly focuses on Elton John's mental health. It's got a lot of the it's got a nice good musical vibe. It's just phenomenal and Egerton, I think, killed that role. It did not get as much buzz because it's Elton John versus Freddie Mercury.

Corey:

And Egerton is a great actor. He's got the role of Han Solo before Alden Ehrenreich.

Tanner:

I'm kind of glad he didn't because we saw what happened with solo and the new comments that Kathleen Kennedy made because she's off her rocker thinking that it was the casting that was the problem.

Corey:

No, because honestly, Donald Glover as Lando Calrissian is one of my favorite things out of that movie. Yeah, it's not an issue of recasting younger actor that was

Brooksie:

that was definitely a good pick. i

Tanner:

Yeah, no, it was It wasn't like the, the movie didn't do well, because of its timing and the backlash of last Jedi. That's really what it is. It was a phenomenal movie. I didn't see it in theaters because of those two things. I'll be honest.

Corey:

Plus that summer when solo came out, I'm pretty sure infinity to infinity. Yeah, it

Tanner:

was it was

Brooksie:

put in the same month in the second Jurassic World,

Tanner:

I think. Yeah, it was put in the same month as infinity war. You screwed yourself.

Corey:

And originally, it wasn't supposed to come out that early. It was supposed to be a Christmas film. Yeah. And then 2017 will happen and 20 said Ron

Tanner:

Howard was directed that movie. Didn't he come in? Did he leave him

Corey:

it because Chris Miller and Phil Lord who did into the spider verse The Lego Batman, Lego movies. They were supposed to direct it and apparently Kathleen didn't 100% like the way they were going. Yes. So they brought in Rodney Howard. And

Tanner:

you can't I will not blame Ron Howard. I will not blame the cast. I will tell you it is flat out the timing and the backlash from last Jedi because everyone was too excited for Infinity War especially after what happened with the last Jedi for those of the fans like me who I would agree that is the best shot and Star Wars movie it could have been the best Star Wars movie it could have been it flat out could have been but shoddy writing and in poor control of the intellectual property is what did that movie in? Because you had and it's nothing against Rian Johnson it's really not I think the dude is a phenomenal actor look at what's happening with knives out he's killing it with that there was no direction from the top that's what the problem with that was.

Corey:

It was a new take on Star Wars at a time where we don't need a new take on Star you

Tanner:

could have done that can you take after the trilogy ended? That's when you do that new take you don't do it in the second movie. The big the big movie of it.

Corey:

It's uh yeah, we could go on about the last I

Tanner:

know we're done but that I just needed to say that that her comments a week and a half ago were so far at wrong. That's not what was wrong with the movie at all.

Corey:

I can understand what she's saying in the point that some of these characters are just a little bit too close to our hearts. So when Luke Skywalker shows up at the end of the Mandalorian as cool as it would be to have a Sebastian Stan I would still

Tanner:

be okay with that. I would still be okay with it. You don't have to CGI Mark Hamill together bow dome,

Corey:

but it does help. I'm not gonna lie that episode of book of Boba Fett with Luke Skywalker. Oh my mind.

Tanner:

Oh, absolutely. But

Corey:

Grand Moff Tarkin being in Rogue One. Better than some other actor playing the same role. It helps with the immersion that being said, you can still get away with casting a younger

Tanner:

if you Ester especially an actor that we know would do the role justice. Like that's really the big thing. And like I know from what I've seen of Sebastian Stan, I want to see his Pamela and Tommy movie that did I am certain is pretty good. I haven't seen it. But from what I've seen of that man as an actor, I would have no problems with him playing that role because he would do justice to that character.

Corey:

Just shows me like it sounds like less work for Lucasfilm on the editing.

Tanner:

Less money involved to Yeah, you have to pay the actor but you're not paying all these other people to make it all work together and keep it a fucking secret.

Brooksie:

Just literally just give the man a wig. And that's it. You're done.

Tanner:

I also want to say if we ever hear a Plo Koon spoiler, ever again, we know it's not PLO count.

Corey:

We got Dahlia, you know, we're gonna start getting rumors that he's gonna show up in the Ahsoka show, and nobody's gonna believe

Tanner:

me sitting there going to Luke, it's Luke. It's Luke. And Dave Filoni is just going to be standing there in a platoon costume. I

Corey:

think there's a lot of projects where they could do like flashbacks and bring some of those characters back.

Tanner:

Listen, Dave kolonie platoon is the one that I could see them bringing back along with Mace Windu because we never see them die. And it's my point with miwon division that we never see her die.

Corey:

Ah, okay, we the three of us have talked about this and I believed it could go either way. I think she died though.

Tanner:

You and I both agree Brooksie that she might be through the multiverse destroying the dark hole.

Brooksie:

I definitely see her being not incapacitated at all whatsoever. I think I sit on Tanner side of the metal

Tanner:

fell on her yo. burst or an energy that you see is heard going through the multiverse. Yeah, he's hurt.

Corey:

Not being able to hold up this mountain anymore. And it crushes her until all of her magical energies wears

Tanner:

out her universe. Where's the body? Everywhere like

Corey:

all around, like

Brooksie:

how this is was talked about? Exactly. Last Last episode of the MLM. But no, I'm one of the guys that came with us to go see the premiere. Eric, he believes that she is alive as well and she will show up at the very end of the Agatha Harkness show. Like there will be a little bit of like an end credit scene at the last episode and Wanda will show up and be like I messed up I need to be trained but i It's my power is what he believes and to be honest, that is a sound reason I could see that happening in actuality and wasting

Tanner:

interesting as right Well guys, I think we've jumped all over the place this episode we wanted to get you guys introduced to our newest member of the team Brooksie here and I think this is a good as good a place as any to leave it. So until next time, guys.

Corey:

Make sure to stay hydrated.

Brooksie:

Eat your vegetables.

Tanner:

Now Now we're not putting that in here. That's not going to be a thing that is

Brooksie:

unfortunate. It's get plenty of sleep.

Corey:

Make sure to file your taxes on time.

Tanner:

Yes, that's a big one. That's a big one. Good forward

Brooksie:

go the speed limit that

Tanner:

seriously. Send help guys send help

Corey:

buckle your seatbelts because they're doing click it or ticket about now.

Tanner:

Well guys, until next time, my name is Tanner. My name is Cory

Brooksie:

and my name is Brooksie

Corey:

and we'll see you in the Nexus